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Tapeworm | Tapeworm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57124.msg1171648#msg1171648
« on: December 17, 2014, 03:04:59 am »
NAME:
Tapeworm
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
1 :death
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 1
TEXT:
:death : Sacrifice tapworm to poison target equal to ATK.
Tapeworm returns stronger when target dies.
NAME:
Tapeworm
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
1 :death
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 1
TEXT:
0 : Sacrifice tapworm to poison target equal to ATK.
Tapeworm returns stronger when target dies.

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IDEA:
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NOTES:
Tapeworm does not cause death effects when this ability is used. Tapeworm can target players.
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« Last Edit: December 18, 2014, 12:51:42 am by montrossen »
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Re: Tapeworm | Tapeworm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57124.msg1171650#msg1171650
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2014, 03:30:50 am »
What's the thematic sense of the tapeworm respawning upon death?
I believe that this would probably be more powerful if it could target players as well. Would basically allow you to use buffs as CC.
It would also create a very powerful synergy with Shard of Patience. 6x Tapeworm (Not hard to summon) + Shard of Patience for one turn + Target Player = 4 Poison Damage x 6 = 24 poison damage. Would be a powerful combo and would add some new decks into the metagame of elements. Call it the Patient Worms or the Tape of Patience.

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Re: Tapeworm | Tapeworm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57124.msg1171652#msg1171652
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2014, 03:34:05 am »
When the host dies, the worm is free again. That is the thematic.

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Re: Tapeworm | Tapeworm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57124.msg1171654#msg1171654
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2014, 03:35:11 am »
When the host dies, the worm is free again. That is the thematic.
"It" refers to the creature. My mistake.

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Re: Tapeworm | Tapeworm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57124.msg1171661#msg1171661
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2014, 03:48:49 am »
It was a little unclear, I'll admit.
To keep it thematically different from a virus, it has to maintain its creature only targeting. Besides, the ability to turn any buff into poison instantly seems pretty darn good if it can hit players, as you yourself mention.

P.S. I would call it "The Measure of Patience".

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Re: Tapeworm | Tapeworm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57124.msg1171662#msg1171662
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2014, 03:57:04 am »
EDIT: Ignore everything I just said. I must have seriously misunderstood something in the card description and made an entire post about it. Epic derp. Apologies.
EDIT2: I was right the first time, and to summarize what I said before I deleted it, its a bit too powerful if it increases in attack each time but still spawns on your side of the field. My original suggestion was that the Tapeworm should spawn on the side of the field of the creature it killed, to make it more of a double edged card, and add more depth to the strategy instead of just repeatable, growing virus.
« Last Edit: December 17, 2014, 07:33:09 pm by Devourer »
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Re: Tapeworm | Tapeworm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57124.msg1171664#msg1171664
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2014, 04:03:38 am »
Where are you seeing this incrementation? It's a 2|1 that can poison for 2 and the target's owner gets a copy of the 2|1 on said target's death.
Note that the upped will oftentimes be worse since it can be more easily used by opponents.

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Re: Tapeworm | Tapeworm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57124.msg1171733#msg1171733
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2014, 02:59:11 pm »
Or well, it can be a buff to Parasite so it doesn't overshadow it.
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Re: Tapeworm | Tapeworm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57124.msg1171743#msg1171743
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2014, 05:55:49 pm »
Where are you seeing this incrementation? It's a 2|1 that can poison for 2 and the target's owner gets a copy of the 2|1 on said target's death.
Note that the upped will oftentimes be worse since it can be more easily used by opponents.

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Re: Tapeworm | Tapeworm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57124.msg1171744#msg1171744
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2014, 06:10:10 pm »
Oh, guess I should read the notes and not assume the card's text is accurate.

:death: Sacrifice tapeworm to infect a creature equal to its ATK. Tapeworm returns stronger when the target dies.

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Re: Tapeworm | Tapeworm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57124.msg1171748#msg1171748
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2014, 08:07:29 pm »
i don't like how it completely overshadows unupped virus, an already unused card.
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Re: Tapeworm | Tapeworm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57124.msg1171778#msg1171778
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2014, 12:30:56 am »
@Bossitron: Virus is unused because it is almost useless. Retrovirus, on the other hand, is what most people use.

@All: Updated:
-can now target players
-does not cause death effects when 'sacrificed' (because its really just going into another creature, not dying)
-less confusing text (hopefully)
« Last Edit: December 18, 2014, 12:54:00 am by montrossen »
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