Whirlwind | Tornado

[dracomageat]

NAME: Whirlwind ELEMENT: Air COST: 4 :Air TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: N/A TEXT: All permanents in target stack are returned to their owner's hand. Destroys any extra.	NAME: Tornado ELEMENT: Air COST: 3 :Air TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: N/A TEXT: All permanents in target stack are returned to their owner's hand. Destroys any extra.

ART: N/A IDEA: Dracomageat, inspired by Torriku NOTES: Air's answer to shields and high cost permanents, this card can also be used to return cards like Sundial or Shard of Patience for reuse later and would be hilarious with Bone Wall. SERIES:

[dragtom]

horribly OP.
nightmare + this = no quantasource for the opponent.

at least make it not able to target pillars/pends...


and then there is the issue of dim shield.
Does it create 3 new dim shields?
even if it created only 1, you could get a total of 12.

[Torriku]

horribly OP.
nightmare + this = no quantasource for the opponent.

at least make it not able to target pillars/pends...


and then there is the issue of dim shield.
Does it create 3 new dim shields?
even if it created only 1, you could get a total of 12.

You could make it only be able to target opponents permanents.

[Pineapple]

Yup, too OP with nightmare against enemy pillars.
If it doesn't target pillars... there's not much else that stacks (permanent shards and Bonewall, that's about it).

[dracomageat]

horribly OP.
nightmare + this = no quantasource for the opponent.
at least make it not able to target pillars/pends...
and then there is the issue of dim shield.
Does it create 3 new dim shields?
even if it created only 1, you could get a total of 12.

Dim shield, like Sundial, uses counters instead of stacking. It would only spawn 1 copy.
Nightmare + Whirlwind is a two element combo that will achieve little more than 2 earthquakes could. The ability to have over 30 turns of dim shield, however, is against all that this card stands for. I guess it needs to die as cutting the self targeting aspect would ruin most of the lesser interactions that make it fun and quirky.

[Espithel]

What we can argue is that shields and weapons are stacks, not slots.
That leaves dims. Now to deal with sundial.

[dracomageat]

Sundial, Dim Shield and Hope all use counters, they are not stacks and will thus spawn only one copy.

[skyironsword]

Sundial, Dim Shield and Hope all use counters, they are not stacks and will thus spawn only one copy.

Not that Hope matters.

[dracomageat]

Hope matters for the purposes of my explanation, even if the interaction is non-existent.

[Pineapple]

Spawning one copy is arguably enough, doubling the duration of protection from 6 dims or 6 dials.

Your comparison to earthquake is legitimate, but it's harder to draw 2 out of 6 Earthquakes than it is to draw 1+1 out of 6+6 Whirlwind and Nightmare, which means this combo, although a duo, can probably be gotten out faster. That, and Whirlwind has versatility outside of killing pillars, while Earthquake counts as dead cards in the face of a pillarless. Just food for thought.