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Swallet | Doline https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37454.msg470650#msg470650
« on: March 14, 2012, 03:55:39 am »
NAME:
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COST:
5 :earth
TYPE:
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TEXT:
When a creature is Burrowed, its owner targets a creature. Target creature will be burrowed for 2 turns.
NAME:
Doline
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
4 :earth
TYPE:
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ATK|HP:

TEXT:
When a creature is Burrowed, its owner targets a creature. Target creature will be burrowed for 2 turns.

ART:
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IDEA:
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NOTES:
Time to give unupped Ant Lion some usage.

Graboids do not triggers this effect.

Burrowing makes the creature untargetable and cuts its attack.  If the the creature has burrow as an active ability, they may unburrow earlier than the card allows.

If there are no Swallet/Doline cards on the field, all creature's burrowed by this effect immediately become unburrowed.
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Re: Swallet | Doline https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37454.msg482562#msg482562
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2012, 07:32:49 am »
Seeing how this didn't get any thoughts the first time through...

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Re: Swallet | Doline https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37454.msg482705#msg482705
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2012, 04:52:35 pm »
The effect may fall under the "will never get made" category... at least the way I'm reading it... It looks like it would potentially require the owner to manually target things on the opponent's turn, which would not fit in the current "play by mail" like ethos of the interface.
I think a solution would be to either have it build up charges that can be used to "burrow" targets or maybe put cards in your hand that let you burrow a target. Requiring an immediate manually targeted response just isn't very feasible though.
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Re: Swallet | Doline https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37454.msg482964#msg482964
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2012, 03:40:20 am »
The effect may fall under the "will never get made" category... at least the way I'm reading it... It looks like it would potentially require the owner to manually target things on the opponent's turn, which would not fit in the current "play by mail" like ethos of the interface.
I think a solution would be to either have it build up charges that can be used to "burrow" targets or maybe put cards in your hand that let you burrow a target. Requiring an immediate manually targeted response just isn't very feasible though.
Or maybe if its text said "When a creature is burrowed another random creature is burrowed and gains the skill  :earth: unburrow. Original skill is lost." I love your idea, though as Odin said, it would be impossible to use ingame.
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Re: Swallet | Doline https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37454.msg483148#msg483148
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2012, 06:06:39 pm »
"Whenever a creature burrows add a counter to Swallet 0:Remove one counter Target creature becomes burrowed for 2 turns."

Could work might be a bit too long though. Or to change it up a bit.

"Add a counter to swallet whenever a creature burrows X: consume all counters and destroy Swallet all (enemy?) creatures burrow one turn for each counter"

Thats is almost definitely too long anyway my point is there are ways to make this card work.

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Re: Swallet | Doline https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37454.msg483323#msg483323
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2012, 01:24:02 am »
The effect may fall under the "will never get made" category... at least the way I'm reading it... It looks like it would potentially require the owner to manually target things on the opponent's turn, which would not fit in the current "play by mail" like ethos of the interface.
I think a solution would be to either have it build up charges that can be used to "burrow" targets or maybe put cards in your hand that let you burrow a target. Requiring an immediate manually targeted response just isn't very feasible though.
I didn't mean to put "your creature" since I wanted it so that even you opponent could use the effect on their turn.

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Re: Swallet | Doline https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37454.msg484467#msg484467
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2012, 10:22:19 pm »
The effect may fall under the "will never get made" category... at least the way I'm reading it... It looks like it would potentially require the owner to manually target things on the opponent's turn, which would not fit in the current "play by mail" like ethos of the interface.
I think a solution would be to either have it build up charges that can be used to "burrow" targets or maybe put cards in your hand that let you burrow a target. Requiring an immediate manually targeted response just isn't very feasible though.
I didn't mean to put "your creature" since I wanted it so that even you opponent could use the effect on their turn.

So you mean during the opponent's turn, they do the targeting? Mybe if you put that on the card or in the notes.
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Re: Swallet | Doline https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37454.msg484486#msg484486
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2012, 10:48:39 pm »
The effect may fall under the "will never get made" category... at least the way I'm reading it... It looks like it would potentially require the owner to manually target things on the opponent's turn, which would not fit in the current "play by mail" like ethos of the interface.
I think a solution would be to either have it build up charges that can be used to "burrow" targets or maybe put cards in your hand that let you burrow a target. Requiring an immediate manually targeted response just isn't very feasible though.
I didn't mean to put "your creature" since I wanted it so that even you opponent could use the effect on their turn.
Thats a little odd, so does that mean this permanent shows up as activatable for the owner's opponent on the owner's opponent's turn after they burrow a creature?
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Re: Swallet | Doline https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37454.msg484496#msg484496
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2012, 11:00:07 pm »
The effect may fall under the "will never get made" category... at least the way I'm reading it... It looks like it would potentially require the owner to manually target things on the opponent's turn, which would not fit in the current "play by mail" like ethos of the interface.
I think a solution would be to either have it build up charges that can be used to "burrow" targets or maybe put cards in your hand that let you burrow a target. Requiring an immediate manually targeted response just isn't very feasible though.
I didn't mean to put "your creature" since I wanted it so that even you opponent could use the effect on their turn.
Thats a little odd, so does that mean this permanent shows up as activatable for the owner's opponent on the owner's opponent's turn after they burrow a creature?

No, since this is a passive effect that affects both sides, like Nightfall | Eclipse.  What I mean is that when a creature uses the ability Burrow, its owner is forced to target another creature and burrow said creature for two turns.

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Re: Swallet | Doline https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37454.msg484565#msg484565
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2012, 12:52:41 am »
AH! Got it... rather confusing at first though, at least from the wording on the card.
Maybe use "When a creature uses burrow, its owner may chose to target an additional creature. It will be burrowed for 2 turns."
That would describe the effect a little more clearly.
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Re: Swallet | Doline https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37454.msg484602#msg484602
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2012, 02:18:43 am »
Card Text updated

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Re: Swallet | Doline https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37454.msg484664#msg484664
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2012, 04:34:29 am »
Aha! Now I understand. This is actually a really cool card.  :P
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