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Kael Hate

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Re: Supplicant Pillar | Supplicant Tower (Quantum Mechanics) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5645.msg60300#msg60300
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2010, 01:44:30 pm »
Actually this is good for duos with all towers in one element and mark in another. Could even play RoL-Hope with Supplicant Towers first generating aether, switching to light once the first RoL is out to get the Hope up, and then back to aether again which would still be more useful than a standard aether tower. Many strategic possibilities would be made available--perhaps needs a slight nerf to balance it.
Um, yeah, it is supposed to be better than a normal Pillar.
Yep supposed to generate strategic posibilities.
Measured up fine when tested comparing a duo deck vs a current streamline deck.

Give me the opening hand you have and how you'd play it that means a nerf is required.
Or better the whole deck.
Example: Mark is  :aether
Opening Draw: 4 :aether towers, 2 supplicant towers, 1 RoL, 1 Fractal
Play all towers (+4-4 :aether), End Turn (+5+4 :aether)
Draw: Hope
Play RoL, Fractal RoLs (=0 :aether), Play 7 RoLs, End Turn (+5 :aether, +8 :light, +4 :aether)
Draw: Fractal
Play Hope (=0 :light), Fractal RoLs (=0 :aether), Play RoLs, End Turn (+5 :aether, +16 :light, +4 :aether)

3 turns and you have lots of quanta generation and a shield that blocks 17 physical damage  :D
Yeah thats a nice perfect 10 card draw. Its stopped in its tracks by any shield that stops 1 point of damage per source. Don't think it needs a nerf because of this. If when getting to the full testing phase of this card we get something that is consistant and effective then we can increase the cost on the card by 1 to break the acceleration.

Backflip...

Changed my mind, and am going to increase the cost by 1 now.

unionruler

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Re: Supplicant Pillar | Supplicant Tower (Quantum Mechanics) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5645.msg60720#msg60720
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2010, 11:40:04 am »
3 turns and you have lots of quanta generation and a shield that blocks 17 physical damage  :D
Fire Shield = you lose.
Thunderstorm = you lose.
Skull Bucker/Jade Shield/Titanium Shield/Permafrost/Solar Buckler = I take no damage.
Condor + Thunderstorm = you lose quicker.
:p

Sure, that might sound really over powered, but as with all things in a card game, there is an effective and efficient counter for any sound strategy.
You mustn't have played RoL-Hope before then. Firstly you don't lose, you just wait to draw another RoL and fractal. Secondly, RoLs aren't for the damage, light drags are. Thirdly, condors can be loboed, and their damage healed over by SoGs. And lastly, in case you didn't know, RoL-Hope is an anti FG.

Lanidrak

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Re: Supplicant Pillar | Supplicant Tower (Quantum Mechanics) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5645.msg60944#msg60944
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2010, 08:31:27 pm »
My point was that, you, bragging about your shield that blocks 17 damage... Had inherent flaws and weaknesses.

And yes, I did know that RoL-Hope is a FG. It is also extremely common and I tend not to use it for that reason.

Finally, Condor + Thunderstorm = a 25/26 Condor. Lobo that if you want. :p

Wisemage

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Re: Supplicant Pillar | Supplicant Tower (Quantum Mechanics) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5645.msg61061#msg61061
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2010, 02:36:05 am »
Care to explain (since you understand its FG) what deck used Condors and thunderstorms?

Lanidrak

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Re: Supplicant Pillar | Supplicant Tower (Quantum Mechanics) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5645.msg61607#msg61607
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2010, 09:35:51 am »
Any player with a bit of imagination.

Condor costs 3 :death
Lightning Storm costs 1 :air

That has theoretically the potentially to give you your 25/24 Condor. Most people simply use fire-storms because it does 3 damage, but it costs 5 times more than a thunderstorm.

edit: My bad :) re-read your post Wisemage, I guess no false deck uses this... meh :p their fault!

unionruler

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Re: Supplicant Pillar | Supplicant Tower (Quantum Mechanics) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5645.msg61635#msg61635
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2010, 11:19:49 am »
Any player with a bit of imagination.

Condor costs 3 :death
Lightning Storm costs 1 :air

That has theoretically the potentially to give you your 25/24 Condor. Most people simply use fire-storms because it does 3 damage, but it costs 5 times more than a thunderstorm.

edit: My bad :) re-read your post Wisemage, I guess no false deck uses this... meh :p their fault!
No FG uses that strat. Anyone stupid enough to use RoL-Hope in PvP should have to face that as a consequence. But for purposes of this discussion, that combo is irrelevant.

Kael Hate

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Re: Supplicant Pillar | Supplicant Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5645.msg68601#msg68601
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2010, 02:01:48 pm »
Updated with card image.

Appears it may be used as an accelerator if it can work when you only have 1 element. Need some card text to say that it works on the element that is the lowest with at least 1 element and not if it is the only element or or tied for the least and produces nothing if otherwise.

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Re: Supplicant Pillar | Supplicant Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5645.msg68602#msg68602
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2010, 02:05:42 pm »
rawr your cards make my brain hurt........
this on i understand *i hope* and it would make good in any golem rush, shreiker rush, growth decks, ext ext. good card :D

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Re: Supplicant Pillar | Supplicant Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5645.msg68611#msg68611
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2010, 02:21:04 pm »
rawr your cards make my brain hurt........
I've often been been compared to brain destroying fictional characters such as Jigsaw.

 

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