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Sundown | Sunset https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36083.msg453788#msg453788
« on: January 28, 2012, 08:43:43 am »
NAME:
Sundown
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
3 :light
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
An additional turn passes.
NAME:
Sunset
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
2 :light
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
An additional turn passes.
ART:
Drake_XIV
IDEA:
Drake_XIV
NOTES:
The idea was that the sun, a source of LIGHT, would be forced around to a second sunset, just before the day, representing a turn, has ended.

Things it would affect:
Poison on creatures and players
Permanents with turn counters (Sundial, Dimensional Shield, etc.)
Freeze and Delays
Which quanta will be produced by pendulums

Things it would not affect:
Drawing
Quanta production via pillars/towers/pendulums
Abilities used during the turn Sundown/Sunset is played
Creature effects, both passive and active
SERIES:
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Re: Sundown | Sunset https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36083.msg453791#msg453791
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2012, 08:55:44 am »
I really like the  :light theme going here.  I can really see this card using play in the Light/Death decks.

Now holy flash isn't the only  :light card to combat Sosa..
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Re: Sundown | Sunset https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36083.msg453799#msg453799
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2012, 09:09:28 am »
Similar to my time slip / time displacement, but undoubtedly different from my card

Like the idea of sunset anyway, really suit the theme.

Yet I think this card is too expensive. I won't play 3 quanta to speed up things unless I have got everything I need (got my shield, weapon, creature and got nothing to spend quanta on)

suggestion : lower the cost or make it affect more things
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Re: Sundown | Sunset https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36083.msg453801#msg453801
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2012, 09:14:02 am »
Okay, what if I also had it affect poison afflicting the players?
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Re: Sundown | Sunset https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36083.msg453810#msg453810
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2012, 09:30:33 am »
Quote from: Drake_XIV on January 28, 2012, 09:14:02 am
Okay, what if I also had it affect poison afflicting the players?
I don't know. Maybe still underpower given the current cost

Maybe just make it " Both players cannot do anything (casting and using any abilities) in the next turn " ; But this will certainly make it overpower

Difficult to balance the card though it is quite interesting
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Re: Sundown | Sunset https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36083.msg453812#msg453812
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2012, 09:31:52 am »
The problem with that is that it could be abused to simply gain additional quanta, which would do well in tower-heavy decks and/or stalls.
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Re: Sundown | Sunset https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36083.msg453834#msg453834
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2012, 10:46:13 am »
EtG needs to mess more with time, turns and the like  :)
Giving it a second ability such as "deal 1 damage to all :darkness or :death creatures will make it more interesting, though.
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Re: Sundown | Sunset https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36083.msg453840#msg453840
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2012, 10:55:15 am »
YOu can almost say it's PC/CC
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Re: Sundown | Sunset https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36083.msg453860#msg453860
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2012, 11:46:44 am »
what if it generates a Nightfall|Eclipse in your hand? You know, after sunset, you get night.. For thematics only, but i don't really see that much :light :darkness duo to matter
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Re: Sundown | Sunset https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36083.msg453927#msg453927
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2012, 04:13:32 pm »
I'm not in favor of trying to force synergy with this card, be it with quanta generation or getting Nightfall | Eclipse.  I have worded so that if it ever would be used, it'd just be versatile without being overpowered, or basically Silence + Sundial. 
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Re: Sundown | Sunset https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36083.msg453934#msg453934
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2012, 04:31:51 pm »
I see it more like a  :time effect.
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Re: Sundown | Sunset https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36083.msg453935#msg453935
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2012, 04:35:06 pm »
Sounds weird, but it's Op and Up at the same time  :P
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