Summoning Circle | Summoning Circle

[OldTrees]

Yes but you can't play off mark alone (normally) so 0 cost cards are needed to play other things.
I don't see your idea working, though sure, I'd use it in place of Immolation.

My initial comparison showed (to me) that it currently is more efficient than Immolation.

[Pineapple]

Yes but you can't play off mark alone (normally) so 0 cost cards are needed to play other things.
I don't see your idea working, though sure, I'd use it in place of Immolation.

My initial comparison showed (to me) that it currently is more efficient than Immolation.

I don't think that Blood Ritual alone is more efficient than Immolation alone, but it is true that Blood Ritual with Immolation is faster than Immolation alone.
What about changing the cost from -5 HP to +5 enemy HP?

[OldTrees]

Yes but you can't play off mark alone (normally) so 0 cost cards are needed to play other things.
I don't see your idea working, though sure, I'd use it in place of Immolation.

My initial comparison showed (to me) that it currently is more efficient than Immolation.

I don't think that Blood Ritual alone is more efficient than Immolation alone, but it is true that Blood Ritual with Immolation is faster than Immolation alone.
What about changing the cost from -5 HP to +5 enemy HP?

I was talking about efficiency at the card level as you just agree was the case. Healing the enemy wouldn't work unless it increased the max hp as well. However this card will not be easily balanced until someone figures a way to compare hp costs to quanta costs.

[Kuroaitou]

CURATOR COMMENT
-Fix the upgraded TEXT section of the table so that it matches the image: it should be "...you can summon up to 2 dragons... Pay 10 HPs per dragon..."
-*The COST of the card image should technically not have an icon after it if its 0 (See the upped Sundial/Pillars)

* = Possibly optional? Not sure if you intended for the card to look like that...

A very interesting element. "Dragon" - my only major concern with this is that it might seem a bit... difficult to imagine as an actual 'element' (since Dragons don't really 'compose' or govern how the material world works), but aside from that, it can be a killer thing to see a bunch of Massive Dragons just pop onto the field at once. ^^

[dracomageat]

The cost icon and the 0 together mean that you can only play this card if you have no dragons. I thought that much was clear once you'd read up on what the symbol meant.

[Pineapple]

So currently I'm planning on turning it into a zero-cost permanent that you sacrifice to summon up to 2 dragons (unupped, 3 upped) if you control no creatures.
Hopefully, the summoning sickness should slow it down enough so that it can't be used in rushes.

[dracomageat]

Summoner's Urn?

That actually sounds like a rather good idea IMO, prevents the first turn swarm and opens up some ability to counter it. I think 1|2 dragons if fine though, 3 is seriously overdoing things.

[OldTrees]

Summoner's Urn?

That actually sounds like a rather good idea IMO, prevents the first turn swarm and opens up some ability to counter it. I think 1|2 dragons if fine though, 3 is seriously overdoing things.

Agreed.

[Pineapple]

Summoner's Urn?

That actually sounds like a rather good idea IMO, prevents the first turn swarm and opens up some ability to counter it. I think 1|2 dragons if fine though, 3 is seriously overdoing things.

Agreed.

But take note that in order to summon 2/3 dragons in one turn, you have to have saved each one after drawing them for that one use of "summoning circle," but I guess 1/2 isn't so bad.

[dracomageat]

Lose the HP cost and it'll all be fair at 1|2 dragons.

[Pineapple]

Personally, I think it's UP with 1|2 dragons, even without the HP cost.

[dracomageat]

Personally, I think it's UP with 1|2 dragons, even without the HP cost.

30 damage turn 2 at no quanta cost is UP now?
20 if you want to play it safe with immaterial creatures.