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Strength Bolt | Strength Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56838.msg1168425#msg1168425
« on: November 26, 2014, 05:15:50 pm »
NAME:
Strength Bolt
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
3 :life
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Give the target creature +1|+1 for every 5 life quanta in your possession.
NAME:
Strength Lance
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
2 :life
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Give the target creature +1|+1 for every 5 life quanta in your possession.

ART:
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NOTES:
It's like the other bolts, but for life.

This card is either UP or OP, and I've tried to fix that but it's not exactly an easy thing to do. At low quanta, it's easily worse than blessing or SoW for a buff. But at high quanta, you can get up +15|+15 from one card. This is really a problem for me. Beside that, it just functions the same as the other bolts, except in increments of 5, not 10.

All questions and constructive criticism welcome.
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« Last Edit: December 02, 2014, 11:19:08 pm by eljoemo »
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Re: Strength Bolt | Strength Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56838.msg1168427#msg1168427
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2014, 05:26:40 pm »
Good buff to pop onto something you are about to hit with mitosis.
Could yield some very beefy vampires :)
The otyugh and scarab combos are pretty potent too.
Don't know if that will be OP, but definitely very strong if used at high :life quanta.

The only issue might be with Deja + this + PU + blitz making a possible OTK.

(2 + 15)*2 *2 * 2 = 136

Thats not gonna take down half bloods or false gods, but its a 4 card combo... Thankfully, the quanta requirements makes it tricky to pull off.

Alternately, the 2 x (wyvern + this) + blitz is a 5 card combo but only requires a duo, which is much easier to pull off quanta-wise.

2*(15 + 3)*2 *2 = 144
« Last Edit: November 26, 2014, 05:30:45 pm by OdinVanguard »
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Re: Strength Bolt | Strength Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56838.msg1168452#msg1168452
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2014, 09:07:26 pm »
just saying, did anyone notice that there is literally only a different name seperating the upgraded and the non-upgraded card?... lol. :P
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Re: Strength Bolt | Strength Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56838.msg1168455#msg1168455
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2014, 10:39:00 pm »
Good buff to pop onto something you are about to hit with mitosis.
Could yield some very beefy vampires :)
The otyugh and scarab combos are pretty potent too.
Don't know if that will be OP, but definitely very strong if used at high :life quanta.

The only issue might be with Deja + this + PU + blitz making a possible OTK.

(2 + 15)*2 *2 * 2 = 136

Thats not gonna take down half bloods or false gods, but its a 4 card combo... Thankfully, the quanta requirements makes it tricky to pull off.

Alternately, the 2 x (wyvern + this) + blitz is a 5 card combo but only requires a duo, which is much easier to pull off quanta-wise.

2*(15 + 3)*2 *2 = 144

Each of these examples needs two turns though (for ability use) which makes them sub-optimal for OTK decks. Plus you'll need 75 :life in each case, which takes a while to generate, again, making them not so great for OTK decks.

As for the duo example, you'll still need some other fun stuff to make it happen. Wings and OE might do, but Phases, sundials and Hourglasses are better for OTK decks.

just saying, did anyone notice that there is literally only a different name seperating the upgraded and the non-upgraded card?... lol. :P

Whoops, the upped was meant to cost 2 :life. I'll get onto fixing that.
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Re: Strength Bolt | Strength Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56838.msg1168461#msg1168461
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2014, 11:05:32 pm »
The deja combo fails as eljoemo described. The wyrm combo does work. Keep in mind that multiple lances can be used, although below a certain amount of quanta its worse than blessing/sow.
Since you want your buffs out fast, and your otks not excess quanta, i think its probably up, but im not sure

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Re: Strength Bolt | Strength Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56838.msg1168722#msg1168722
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2014, 07:36:18 pm »
I'm unsure as to whether this is OP or UP. The tricky part is making is balanced at both low and high quanta amounts. I could tweak it to give +2|+2 for every 10 quanta, which makes it a teeny bit stronger, especially at low quanta. I don't know anymore :S
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Re: Strength Bolt | Strength Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56838.msg1168767#msg1168767
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2014, 02:36:30 am »
Life has can get extra quanta faster than some elements due to the Rustler. I once saw somebody post that if there were a life card that was based on the amount of life quanta Rustler would be used more often. Overall, I think this is a good card.
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Re: Strength Bolt | Strength Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56838.msg1168833#msg1168833
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2014, 04:40:39 pm »
a card scaling with  :life quanta would be just as probable to make rustler used more often as a (good) card that consumes all :life quanta
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Re: Strength Bolt | Strength Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56838.msg1168902#msg1168902
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2014, 03:27:14 am »
So your saying this should consume all :life quanta?
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Re: Strength Bolt | Strength Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56838.msg1168930#msg1168930
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2014, 12:49:30 pm »
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Re: Strength Bolt | Strength Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56838.msg1168998#msg1168998
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2014, 08:09:47 pm »
It is pretty good.
I'm not going to lie, I do have a card idea just from looking at this card.

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Re: Strength Bolt | Strength Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56838.msg1169343#msg1169343
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