Statue | Statue

[mildlyfrightenedboy]

NAME: Statue ELEMENT: Earth COST: 5 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 3 | 5 TEXT: Statue is targeted as a permanent.	NAME: Statue ELEMENT: Earth COST: 5 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 5 | 5 TEXT: Statue is targeted as a permanent.

ART: http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1336644 IDEA: MildlyFrightenedBoy NOTES: Statue cannot be targeted with abilities that target creatures, like Twin Universe or Heavy Armor.  However, it can be targeted with Protect Artifact, Steal, and Deflagration. Statue is placed in a creature slot. This card fits in because of the synergy with Protect Artifact (which becomes a 1 Quint) and Earth's general theme of high-defense creatures with average damage. Statue is not affected by the CC effect of Fire Buckler, Permafrost Shield, etc., but the damage dealt is still reduced.  Statue will not take damage from non-targeted abilities like Pandemonium or Lightning Storm.  The health value being there at all is purely a formality. SERIES:

[Hyroen]

I knew this reminded me of something. Galatea | Galatea by Essence

It's good to have this card as a reference for the different perspectives. What aspects seem better from each version? Why? I would personally rather see the card as a pseudo-vanilla and have stats to reflect this. It's risky vulnerabilities easily balance out with its potent in-element protection.

[OdinVanguard]

So am I right in assuming that deflagrate will one-shot kill it? And steal will make it switch sides? Very odd... could be fun to play with though... I think it should be targetable like a pillar though... earthquakes can do a nasty number on statues.

Just a suggestion, maybe its health could be reduced and treated like bone shield. E.g. unupped has 1 health so it can be 1 shotted, upped has 2 health meaning it would take 2 deflags to kill. Or something like that... just a wild idea.

[mildlyfrightenedboy]

So am I right in assuming that deflagrate will one-shot kill it? And steal will make it switch sides? Very odd... could be fun to play with though... I think it should be targetable like a pillar though... earthquakes can do a nasty number on statues.

Just a suggestion, maybe its health could be reduced and treated like bone shield. E.g. unupped has 1 health so it can be 1 shotted, upped has 2 health meaning it would take 2 deflags to kill. Or something like that... just a wild idea.

Yes - and, here is one question that I had.  Should I make Statue stack like a permanent so it can be targeted with Earthquake?

I knew this reminded me of something. Galatea | Galatea by Essence

It's good to have this card as a reference for the different perspectives. What aspects seem better from each version? Why? I would personally rather see the card as a pseudo-vanilla and have stats to reflect this. It's risky vulnerabilities easily balance out with its potent in-element protection.

Because Statue cannot be targeted with abilities that normally target creatures (Chaos Seed, Shockwave), it is less vulnerable.  Statue is basically play -> PA for sturdy damage.  Galatea is more vulnerable, being targetable by permanent control AND creature control, which, IMO, doesn't fit the theme of .

[russianspy1234]

Nice card.  I don't think making it stack is a good idea.

[Annele]

I love this idea too.

Hmm... 7 + 2 unupped cards = immortal 3/5 creature; and 6 +2 upped cards = immortal 5/5 creature.

[jawdirk]

There are no cards that positively affect permanents except for protect artifact. That means its ability is strictly worse than immortality. Therefor it is UP. I would make its stats and cost slightly better than immortal.

[mildlyfrightenedboy]

There are no cards that positively affect permanents except for protect artifact. That means its ability is strictly worse than immortality. Therefor it is UP. I would make its stats and cost slightly better than immortal.

However, it is in the same element as Protect Artifact, which is very cheap.

Golden Dragon's ability (none) is strictly worse than Antlion's ability (burrow).  Does that mean that Golden Dragon is underpowered?  No, it means that Golden Dragon has an equal advantage in stats, card cost, or possible synergies.  In this case, being in the same element as a 1-quanta Quint is the strength of Statue.

[Annele]

There are no cards that positively affect permanents except for protect artifact. That means its ability is strictly worse than immortality. Therefor it is UP. I would make its stats and cost slightly better than immortal.

However, it is in the same element as Protect Artifact, which is very cheap.

Golden Dragon's ability (none) is strictly worse than Antlion's ability (burrow).  Does that mean that Golden Dragon is underpowered?  No, it means that Golden Dragon has an equal advantage in stats, card cost, or possible synergies.  In this case, being in the same element as a 1-quanta Quint is the strength of Statue.

Hmm... 7 + 2 unupped cards = immortal 3/5 creature; and 6 +2 upped cards = immortal 5/5 creature.

And 6  + 1 unupped card = immortal 4/3 creature; and 7 + 1 upped card = immortal 5/3 creature.
UP, don't you think?

[OdinVanguard]

There are no cards that positively affect permanents except for protect artifact. That means its ability is strictly worse than immortality. Therefor it is UP. I would make its stats and cost slightly better than immortal.

What if an ability were added that let it be targeted like a creature temporarily. E.g:
"Statue is targeted as a permanent.
  living stone: Can be targeted as a creature till end of turn."

[mildlyfrightenedboy]

And 6  + 1 unupped card = immortal 4/3 creature; and 7 + 1 upped card = immortal 5/3 creature.
UP, don't you think?

Not really.  You also have to remember that Immortal can still be affected by Fire Shield etc.

Additionally, before the PA, there are very few things that can target Statue.

[jawdirk]

And 6  + 1 unupped card = immortal 4/3 creature; and 7 + 1 upped card = immortal 5/3 creature.
UP, don't you think?

Not really.  You also have to remember that Immortal can still be affected by Fire Shield etc.

That's a good point, however, I still think it is UP.