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Re: Stampede | Stampede https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18571.msg237077#msg237077
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2010, 03:16:33 pm »
Please compare this to Air Blitz

This vs Air Blitz
Cost: 9|8 :life vs 9|8 :air (drain remainder)
Duration: Permanent vs 1 turn
Effect: Almost double fielded damage vs Doubles fielded damage

The drain remainder part of Air Blitz's cost is due to a non linear self-stacking effect so it can be ignored.

What we a left with is that Stampede is obviously superior to Air Blitz for no good reason.

Summary: It is the duration that is the problem. Draining all :life will not solve the problem and is not a useful addition.
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Re: Stampede | Stampede https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18571.msg237142#msg237142
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2010, 04:37:22 pm »
Please compare this to Air Blitz

This vs Air Blitz
Cost: 9|8 :life vs 9|8 :air (drain remainder)
Duration: Permanent vs 1 turn
Effect: Almost double fielded damage vs Doubles fielded damage

The drain remainder part of Air Blitz's cost is due to a non linear self-stacking effect so it can be ignored.

What we a left with is that Stampede is obviously superior to Air Blitz for no good reason.

Summary: It is the duration that is the problem. Draining all :life will not solve the problem and is not a useful addition.
In that case, your best best is to remove Drain all :life quanta and simply give the increase a duration of 1 turn. Bulls usually get tired after a stampede right?

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Re: Stampede | Stampede https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18571.msg237237#msg237237
« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2010, 05:58:48 pm »
Please compare this to Air Blitz

This vs Air Blitz
Cost: 9|8 :life vs 9|8 :air (drain remainder)
Duration: Permanent vs 1 turn
Effect: Almost double fielded damage vs Doubles fielded damage

The drain remainder part of Air Blitz's cost is due to a non linear self-stacking effect so it can be ignored.

What we a left with is that Stampede is obviously superior to Air Blitz for no good reason.

Summary: It is the duration that is the problem. Draining all :life will not solve the problem and is not a useful addition.
In that case, your best best is to remove Drain all :life quanta and simply give the increase a duration of 1 turn. Bulls usually get tired after a stampede right?
2 turns sounds better ;)

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Re: Stampede | Stampede https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18571.msg237242#msg237242
« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2010, 06:04:56 pm »
2 turns deserves double the cost.
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Re: Stampede | Stampede https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18571.msg237243#msg237243
« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2010, 06:05:27 pm »
2 turns deserves double the cost.
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Re: Stampede | Stampede https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18571.msg237596#msg237596
« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2011, 12:42:09 am »
Should I even bother to mention that the spell is still stackable?

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Re: Stampede | Stampede https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18571.msg237618#msg237618
« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2011, 01:19:10 am »
Should I even bother to mention that the spell is still stackable?
Yes you should point it out so that I can suggest that it should increase the Current Attack to Nx the Full Attack. This will solve the multiplicative stacking by reducing it to additive stacking which is balanced.
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Re: Stampede | Stampede https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18571.msg237755#msg237755
« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2011, 05:43:26 am »
Perhaps stampede should be :gravity because of the tremor it causes.
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Re: Stampede | Stampede https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18571.msg238639#msg238639
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2011, 01:30:05 pm »
Perhaps stampede should be :gravity because of the tremor it causes.
You seem to like gravity a lot.

In any case it would be Earth not Gravity because Tremor = Earthquake = Earth. Tremors are not that gravity related at all.

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Re: Stampede | Stampede https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18571.msg239166#msg239166
« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2011, 01:10:59 am »
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Re: Stampede | Stampede https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18571.msg239413#msg239413
« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2011, 09:09:03 am »
Perhaps stampede should be :gravity because of the tremor it causes.
You seem to like gravity a lot.

In any case it would be Earth not Gravity because Tremor = Earthquake = Earth. Tremors are not that gravity related at all.

Creature's are life and creature's stampede. It belongs to life.
Well, okay maybe it is  :earth, but remember the collision is caused by the :gravity pulling of two or more tectonic plates.
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