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Spirit Well | Spirit Well https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32712.msg413248#msg413248
« on: October 20, 2011, 05:40:00 pm »
NAME:
Spirit Well
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
7 :death
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
:life :life Rebirth: Generate a copy of last creature that died.
NAME:
Spirit Well
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
6 :death
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
:life :life Rebirth: Generate a copy of last creature that died.
ART:
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Re: Spirit Well | Spirit Well https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32712.msg413249#msg413249
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2011, 05:41:24 pm »
Seems... interesting, but maybe the price to use it (the 2 :life) should be a little higher, since it seems kinda easy to abuse that using a life mark. But anyways, good idea, and as always, amazing art. Good job :)
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Re: Spirit Well | Spirit Well https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32712.msg413287#msg413287
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2011, 06:45:13 pm »
Would most likely need to balance this off other creature generating cards.
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Re: Spirit Well | Spirit Well https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32712.msg413292#msg413292
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2011, 06:52:27 pm »
Hasn't this been done before...?

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Re: Spirit Well | Spirit Well https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32712.msg413294#msg413294
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2011, 06:59:08 pm »
maybe, but idk
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Re: Spirit Well | Spirit Well https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32712.msg413302#msg413302
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2011, 07:11:50 pm »
Nevermind, the card I was thinking of was Tomb | Grave (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14278).
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Re: Spirit Well | Spirit Well https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32712.msg413594#msg413594
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2011, 04:09:22 am »
It's :life Fractal-Dragon for the cost of a Frog Fractal!
Unless it's a one use per turn; but still, even 2 :life per turn is a faster possible Dragon fractal than waiting to stock up on however many 10s of quanta - So perhaps raise ability cost to 3 :life? or make it a one time thing only - like sundial.
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Re: Spirit Well | Spirit Well https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32712.msg413595#msg413595
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2011, 04:15:19 am »
So :life :life :life is enough for skill is enough to balance this?
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Re: Spirit Well | Spirit Well https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32712.msg413622#msg413622
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2011, 05:16:17 am »
I'd say the casting cost rather than skill cost should be raised. Make it more in line with other creature generators - say, 7/6 :death?
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Re: Spirit Well | Spirit Well https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32712.msg413624#msg413624
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2011, 05:20:31 am »
Editing is done.
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Re: Spirit Well | Spirit Well https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32712.msg413773#msg413773
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2011, 04:03:15 pm »
Still @Emerald Tiger
Would people still use it if it cost 150% to 200% as much?
It depends. They would use it as a combo card (but I can't see that much synergy with Death and Life as it is) but probably not as a standalone answer to CC. Also, another thing to note is that it works on your creatures too. A Giant Frog deck with this to make sure you can spam Frogs 'till the end of tomorrow, maybe even with Bonewalls, would be an amazing anti-CC deck. Overall it is probably a very good addition to Life, less so to Death. Thus, increasing the Death cost makes it less versatile IMO.
^Valuable insight. I had overlooked the passive Anti-CC usage.

Since the Active usage is more powerful than the Passive usage, the Activation Cost can be increased to balance the two strategies. The casting cost would then be adjusted to balance the two strategies with the standard.


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Re: Spirit Well | Spirit Well https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32712.msg413796#msg413796
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2011, 04:44:55 pm »
if i remember correctly, ideas like these have been shot down in the past because of zanz's unwillingness/lack of desire to add a 'card graveyard' type of code to keep track of destroyed cards.
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