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Spider Queen | Spider Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41572.msg515172#msg515172
« on: June 26, 2012, 07:42:57 am »
NAME:
Spider Queen
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
6 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 7
TEXT:
:death : Spinneret
Deal 4 damage to the target webbed creature.  If it dies, spawn a Flesh Spider.
NAME:
Spider Queen
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
6 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 8
TEXT:
:death : Spinneret
Deal 4 damage to the target webbed creature.  If it dies, spawn a Flesh Recluse.

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Spinneret can only attack creatures that have been attacked with Web, so you will need Flesh Recluses or Phase Recluses in your deck as well as Spider Queen.
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Re: Spider Queen | Spider Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41572.msg515183#msg515183
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2012, 08:39:06 am »
Interesting buff to web. Requires a trio though, could be tough...
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Re: Spider Queen | Spider Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41572.msg515220#msg515220
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2012, 12:11:00 pm »
Does the game remember what creatures have been webbed?
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Re: Spider Queen | Spider Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41572.msg515258#msg515258
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2012, 03:05:19 pm »
Does the game remember what creatures have been webbed?
No, but it is not hard to add.

Interesting buff to web. Requires a trio though, could be tough...
The trio part is difficult

A spider's web is a  :aether/ :death:air duo.
This queen is a  :darkness/ :death + spider's web
Total:  :darkness :death :air (Flesh Spider) or  :aether :darkness :death :air (Phase Spider)

This is a forced combo with 2 potential cards. Since one is a trio and the other is a quad, this is effectively a forced combo with only 1 potential card.
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Re: Spider Queen | Spider Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41572.msg515299#msg515299
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2012, 05:30:53 pm »
simple solution: also add a dark spider/recluse. i see no reason why 3 elements can share in the spidery goodness.

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Re: Spider Queen | Spider Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41572.msg515302#msg515302
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2012, 05:33:34 pm »
simple solution: also add a dark spider/recluse. i see no reason why 3 elements can share in the spidery goodness.

If only it were that simple.  You can't really make cards that would work on other ideas.  They have to work with what we do have.

First off, I like the photo for the art.  Problem, though, is that's a photo.  But that's an art issue, not idea.

I think for a combination like that, the 6 :darkness cost is a bit much.  Maybe lower to 4~5?

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Re: Spider Queen | Spider Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41572.msg515361#msg515361
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2012, 07:30:15 pm »
simple solution: also add a dark spider/recluse. i see no reason why 3 elements can share in the spidery goodness.

If only it were that simple.  You can't really make cards that would work on other ideas.  They have to work with what we do have.

First off, I like the photo for the art.  Problem, though, is that's a photo.  But that's an art issue, not idea.

I think for a combination like that, the 6 :darkness cost is a bit much.  Maybe lower to 4~5?

It's supposed to look like you're about to be eaten.  I am terrible at art :/

My idea for he high cost was, despite the fact that it's a trio, you only need a set amount of :darkness and you can (with Eclipse) start cranking out 8 ATK creatures.  It deserves a pretty high cost.
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Re: Spider Queen | Spider Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41572.msg515364#msg515364
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2012, 07:35:30 pm »
Well, the unupped is only cranking out potentially 5 Att creatures.  And requires Web and creature to kill.

Speaking of which, is the Spider spawned on the side that the creature is killed on, or is it always your side?

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Re: Spider Queen | Spider Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41572.msg515365#msg515365
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2012, 07:35:54 pm »
Well, the unupped is only cranking out potentially 5 Att creatures.  And requires Web and creature to kill.

Speaking of which, is the Spider spawned on the side that the creature is killed on, or is it always your side?

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Re: Spider Queen | Spider Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41572.msg515368#msg515368
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2012, 07:38:48 pm »
What if it had a :darkness ability cost, and the ability would generate either phase or flesh spiders? With a 50/50 chance. In this way, it can be used as a duo. Of course, the ability cost would be a bit higher I think.
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Re: Spider Queen | Spider Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41572.msg515371#msg515371
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2012, 07:41:49 pm »
Because thematically, it doesn't make sense for a Phase Recluse to be born from death?

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Re: Spider Queen | Spider Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41572.msg515388#msg515388
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2012, 08:38:39 pm »
Because thematically, it doesn't make sense for a Phase Recluse to be born from death?
Neither Flesh Spider nor Phase Spider is born from death. Merely the eggs laid in the webbed creature.
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