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Re: Silent Forest | Silent Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19138.msg245211#msg245211
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2011, 05:13:03 pm »
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um....   my think is.   if you set up fast enough (with pillar/creature and your opponent have only quanta and card that waiting to use) to use this card.   that mean your opponent can't do anything to protect himself. if he don't have any card to attack or use ability on the field, are that already dead end for your enemy?

buy maybe with this card cost.  it's a bit to much to 'fast setup' ....

should i lower it cost again?

@Zblader
your post make me though 'are that not enough to buff this card'  cuz when i'm first made it i'm even think it's a bit to OP.   lol

heh...  interesting idea.  i'm like it.    look very like 'a calm before storm' or something like this.  and it's absolutely great with ffq deck  :P

but i'm don't sure if i'm do as you say it will make this card a bit OP or not....     what if twice silence, destroy 1 your permanent per turn and generate 2 :life for you but still have old cost (7/6 or something)   ???

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so gladly if you wanna make an art for me.  but i'm still don't think it will be good if it stay in  :darkness or  :aether    dark already have cloack   and aether have original silent.   ^-^

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Re: Silent Forest | Silent Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19138.msg245220#msg245220
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2011, 05:27:57 pm »
I will try to make an image that makes a person think of all three elements.
If Nowhere is Somewhere, and Somewhere is Over there, How can we be Anywhere?
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Re: Silent Forest | Silent Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19138.msg245225#msg245225
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2011, 05:33:51 pm »
Nice card, not so easy to play! May be careful with it  :D Permit create a great stall if you have many creatures in play, or a big one!!  ;)

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Re: Silent Forest | Silent Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19138.msg245257#msg245257
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2011, 06:15:15 pm »
how is this?
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Re: Silent Forest | Silent Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19138.msg245285#msg245285
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Re: Silent Forest | Silent Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19138.msg245832#msg245832
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2011, 09:26:20 am »
wow  look good    ;D

but as crystalmakwer said.  why are that forest look so cube.....

:aether :darkness :life forest in my head is look like a night time forest in a closed dimension....   i'm don't sure other people would understand this kind of stuff.  just only want to say. ignore it.   ^-^ 

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Re: Silent Forest | Silent Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19138.msg245853#msg245853
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2011, 10:54:44 am »
So you'll play this when you'll have better field than your opponent. And it's over? I mean, what can the opponent do to stop it? I just have to calculate how much perms I need to keep doing damage (if I'm well protected) and that's it.

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Re: Silent Forest | Silent Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19138.msg245881#msg245881
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2011, 12:36:33 pm »
ah...  yes.    better field and use this.  and wait until it destroyed.   a way to stop it is earth rare weapon, butterfly effect in your creature.  maybe it's all.

but your opponent still have some way to stop it.   have a better field.   drain your quanta.   this 2 way have many way to do.   ^-^

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Re: Silent Forest | Silent Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19138.msg245964#msg245964
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2011, 03:51:18 pm »
I don't like a card that it's too powerfull by itself. The prevention to play cards is too much imo. People won't be silly to play it when there is a pulvy or a butterfly effect on the field.

Re: Silent Forest | Silent Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19138.msg246171#msg246171
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2011, 09:42:47 pm »
Why don't change the effect with this?? "You and your opponent can not play any card.
Random destroy 1 of your permanent per turn, for three turn. Then, this card is destroyed." or two turns....for balance the card!

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Re: Silent Forest | Silent Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19138.msg246861#msg246861
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2011, 10:06:02 pm »
As it stands, I feel this card is a not good to implement as it stands.  Permanents are countered by the ability to remove them.  As I read this card "If you are winning, and your opponent does not have a Pulvy or BE (good chance) you can lock down the entire game and if you are lucky, have that lock till the game is over." 

I can see rushing with life and playing this by turn 4.  In an average game, I will have 4 pillars or so, opponent will have the same #, maybe a weapon, shield... etc.  So lets say we have 10 permanents on the field.  That gives it a 10% 0 turn lock, a 20% 1 turn lock, 30% 2 turn lock... etc.  (Adjusted to be statistically accurate).  With this one card, I can lock the field for 3-5 turns on average. 

Beyond the lock, that just sounds very un-fun to me.  Being chain silenced is annoying, but at least my opponent is using a card each time, lasts only 1 turn per application and it will only be bad if my opponent gets lucky with drawing the silences.  And he won't be using other cards, because he drew silences.  This has both of us clicking 'space' until the RNG allows us to play again.

I am also not a fan of randomness in life.  Leave those effects to the elements that thrive off of them.

Either take the silence away, Limit the time allowed to be up, have it destroy only your permanents, only silence creature spells, something along those lines.  Less random, more choices involved when it is played.

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Re: Silent Forest | Silent Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19138.msg247225#msg247225
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2011, 11:09:11 am »
yeah....  that's why i'm think this card is OP   but seem right so many people think it's UP.....

this card look like a gamble.  but you must have a 'good chance' before you can bet.   greater board and your opponent can't destroy this gamble so easily.   

rise it cost will make it harder to start it.   and when you start, yes  you have a chance to get a perfect win.  but what if this one destroy itself instant?

for me.  i'm suggest to make it have more cost only a bit, destroy only for yourself (maybe 2), and drain all your quanta when it still be in your board.    as i said.  i'm think it's a bit OP when i'm first suggest it (in spoiler note)   

btw...  are you trying to tell me 'if you change it in to another element (entropy?)  you will think this is good....  ewwwww    ^-^

 

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