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Dimension Zero | Dimension Zero https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53300.msg1120164#msg1120164
« on: January 09, 2014, 02:00:16 am »
NAME:
Dimension Zero
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
12 :entropy
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Arena.
0: Drain quanta, discard, and draw. Either player can use multiple times a turn.
NAME:
Dimension Zero
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
10 :entropy
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Arena.
0: Drain quanta, discard, and draw. Either player can use multiple times a turn.

ART:

IDEA:
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NOTES:
Arena: Destroy this card if another Arena card comes into play on either side.

Hey, look, Arenas are back.

This can be used by either player, multiple times a turn. It will drain all your quanta. Then you discard a card from your hand, and in exchange you draw the top card of your deck.

Basically it zeroes your quanta and then lets you loop cards from deck -> hand -> discard.

Using the ability without any cards in hand skips the discard part. (Willing to change to 'unable to use ability'.)
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Re: Dimension Zero | Dimension Zero https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53300.msg1120373#msg1120373
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2014, 08:37:28 am »
For one, draining quanta is kinda extreme, and since it doesn't stack as a cost, it encourages abuse. Secondly, I don't really see how this deck-thinning mechanic fits in with Entropy.

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Re: Dimension Zero | Dimension Zero https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53300.msg1120382#msg1120382
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2014, 10:28:45 am »
SO, this is like a very much worse version of Hourglass? Except it can be use multiple times per turn? Even then I don't see myself ever using this card. The "Drain all quanta" is way way too much. And why is is even so expensive when it got that big drawback and both players can use it?
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Re: Dimension Zero | Dimension Zero https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53300.msg1120453#msg1120453
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2014, 08:38:17 pm »
... That's true. What do you want me to do about it?

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Re: Dimension Zero | Dimension Zero https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53300.msg1120468#msg1120468
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2014, 11:21:37 pm »
I would drop cost a lot and/or either remove or lower the quanta drain a lot. Since this can be used by both players, I don't see the reason for a huge cost.
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Re: Dimension Zero | Dimension Zero https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53300.msg1120475#msg1120475
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2014, 12:19:41 am »
Maybe it could just drain half of each quanta pool (rounded down) and then make the activation have a cost (2 :entropy for instance). Another idea would be that it drains a few random quanta pools, which makes it more risky (in case of mono and duos) but more playable than the current version. Also, I would lower the card playing cost, (6 :entropy / 5 :entropy)as they currently have the same cost of a dragon.
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Re: Dimension Zero | Dimension Zero https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53300.msg1120487#msg1120487
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2014, 02:02:44 am »
Drawing at will needs some kind of drawback because of OTKs. Draining everything might be too much though.
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