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Shield of Endurance | Shield of Fortitude https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57879.msg1183333#msg1183333
« on: March 24, 2015, 01:31:57 am »
NAME:
Shield of Endurance
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
8 :earth
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Shield:
The damage dealt to you from physical damage is halved.
NAME:
Shield of Fortitude
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
7 :earth
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Shield:
The damage dealt to you from physical damage is halved.

ART:
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IDEA:

NOTES:
Damage reduction is rounded up in favour of the owner of Shield of Endurance
Example:
atk 3
reduce 50% = 1.5
round up = 2 damage reduction

(revised on 29/04/15)
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« Last Edit: April 30, 2015, 06:41:14 am by foxrain4 »

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Re: Shield of Endurance | Shield of Fortitude https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57879.msg1183336#msg1183336
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2015, 01:48:47 am »
This costs way too much. Effect is slightly higher expected value than Dusk Mantle, but it doesn't stop on hit effects as well

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Re: Shield of Endurance | Shield of Fortitude https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57879.msg1183339#msg1183339
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2015, 01:51:27 am »
This costs way too much. Effect is slightly higher expected value than Dusk Mantle, but it doesn't stop on hit effects as well

But it's at least as good as titanium in every circumstance.

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Re: Shield of Endurance | Shield of Fortitude https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57879.msg1183341#msg1183341
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2015, 02:06:01 am »
At most, the cost should be similar to Dusk/Procrastination (6|4). The role of Titanium/Diamond is to block small creatures, so you can't use that for comparison.

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Re: Shield of Endurance | Shield of Fortitude https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57879.msg1183342#msg1183342
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2015, 02:08:43 am »
If rounding is to your favor, does that mean this completely blocks off 1 attack creatures?
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Re: Shield of Endurance | Shield of Fortitude https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57879.msg1183345#msg1183345
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2015, 02:33:29 am »
I see the card and the first thing that strikes me is the cost. And its not even Immaterial.

Maybe it will be useful in end game with more damage on field from growth/blessed creatures or dragons.
Otherwise not much useful than
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Re: Shield of Endurance | Shield of Fortitude https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57879.msg1183346#msg1183346
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2015, 02:36:39 am »
At most, the cost should be similar to Dusk/Procrastination (6|4). The role of Titanium/Diamond is to block small creatures, so you can't use that for comparison.

... But it's at least as good as titanium in doing that, and better than titanium at everything else.

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Re: Shield of Endurance | Shield of Fortitude https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57879.msg1183349#msg1183349
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2015, 03:08:59 am »
It's not as good as titanium vs 2 attack damage sources. Blocking Arsenic is a real factor

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Re: Shield of Endurance | Shield of Fortitude https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57879.msg1183360#msg1183360
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2015, 04:05:47 am »
So it can't block unupped arsenic or 2 ATK creatures completely. Is that really it?

+2 cost, phoenixes, seraphs, dragons, abominations, shriekers and ghosts become much more tolerable? I'd pretty much use this in any scenario titanium would be used.

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Re: Shield of Endurance | Shield of Fortitude https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57879.msg1183385#msg1183385
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2015, 08:25:56 am »
Dragons deal only 5 damage with that thing.
I think its high cost is reasonable because it looks like more like a combination of Hope and Dusk shield to me.

I give it a 4/5.
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Re: Shield of Endurance | Shield of Fortitude https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57879.msg1183480#msg1183480
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2015, 12:27:44 am »
If rounding is to your favor, does that mean this completely blocks off 1 attack creatures?
yes Shield of Endurance completely blocks off 1 attack creatures.

atk 1
50 % = 0.5
round down = 0

atk 2
50 % = 1
round down = 1

you need at least an attack of 2 to deal damage to the owner of Shield of Endurance.

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Re: Shield of Endurance | Shield of Fortitude https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57879.msg1183572#msg1183572
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2015, 01:45:29 pm »
On one hand, this should cost around the same as dusk, procrastination, since it's practically the same effect.

However, what makes titanium powerful is that :earth can effectively remove the things it doesn't block from the game (BB).

Because of this, giving this the same cost as dusk/proc would indeed overshadow titanium imo. If this was in any other element,  5/4 cost would be the best choice. On :earth , I agree with the cost.
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