Shelter | Aegis (rework)

[OldTrees]

i think it'd be good to allow you to "devour" creatures with >20 hp, but cap the "hp gained" to 20, say use on Armagio 1|25 or Dragon, you get 20hp for each

Would someone please defend the assertion that 21+ hp is OP? I do not believe this assertion and feel it needs to be defended.

[Xenocidius]

Just realized this is very similar to a card currently in the armory section.

Would you mind linking it rather than wasting valuable space in this thread?

i think it'd be good to allow you to "devour" creatures with >20 hp, but cap the "hp gained" to 20, say use on Armagio 1|25 or Dragon, you get 20hp for each

Would someone please defend the assertion that 21+ hp is OP? I do not believe this assertion and feel it needs to be defended.

I certainly won't. 21+ HP is definitely NOT OP. Especially considering that Gravity Pull or Chimera can do a similar thing, but with this you actually have to sacrifice a creature (therefore not getting the attack bonus or skill of it). Sure, this card is powerful. OP? Hardly.

[oblivion1212]

Just realized this is very similar to a card currently in the armory section.

Would you mind linking it rather than wasting valuable space in this thread?

i think it'd be good to allow you to "devour" creatures with >20 hp, but cap the "hp gained" to 20, say use on Armagio 1|25 or Dragon, you get 20hp for each

Would someone please defend the assertion that 21+ hp is OP? I do not believe this assertion and feel it needs to be defended.

I certainly won't. 21+ HP is definitely NOT OP. Especially considering that Gravity Pull or Chimera can do a similar thing, but with this you actually have to sacrifice a creature (therefore not getting the attack bonus or skill of it). Sure, this card is powerful. OP? Hardly.

i think what makes the 20<hp OP (based on reactions) is that this card is usable multiple times per turn, but yeah, idk 'coz fractal + armagio is pretty weird for a combo just for buffing defences..

/neutral on stand

[RRQJ]

you're still sacrificing the creatures, meaning you're sacrificing cards, quanta, and attack power to power up a shield that doesn't make you win, and can be destroyed by explosion, etc.  Not to mention that momentum will still pass this.  In fact, if you were able to put out a ton of creatures to sacrifice, why wouldn't you just go on the offense and win?

And compare this to dissipation field.  If that isn't OP when you stock a ton of quanta and have a ton of QTs, then I how would this be OP when sacrificing multiple >20 HP creatures?

[Naesala]

Im on the sacrifice anything side, if my voice matters

[shadow1128]

Just woke up =p. I'm feeling surprise that shelter|aegis will receive that much comment...and I now asking for some real life friends advice( they are pro in elements also) and will make some fix and work on this card because i love this idea also =]

[mega plini]

doesn't sacrificing creatures for health seem more like  istead of 

[oblivion1212]

doesn't sacrificing creatures for health seem more like  istead of 

you can think of it as pulling together creatures (metallic ones to somehow match ) to give yourself a tougher wall 

(patching creatures together sounds more so i used the word pulling together)

[shadow1128]

After elaborate everyone's comment, i have improve it..and this is the image of 2 card

point to note
Shelter| Aegis is totally different from bonewall, if you destroy or steal it, the whole shield along with HP inside will be destroyed/ stolen.
And if the Shield's Hp goes down to 0, it will still in shield slot but not disappear

[Quabal]

Just realized this is very similar to a card currently in the armory section.

Would you mind linking it rather than wasting valuable space in this thread?

Sorry - http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13902.0.html

[Naesala]

Just realized this is very similar to a card currently in the armory section.

Would you mind linking it rather than wasting valuable space in this thread?

Sorry - http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13902.0.html

similar in that you offer creatures to increase it's defense, but its differant enough that this can be its own card