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Re: Graviton Knucklehead | Graviton Knocker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58463.msg1190783#msg1190783
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2015, 02:54:08 am »
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Re: Graviton Knucklehead | Graviton Knocker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58463.msg1190864#msg1190864
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2015, 06:26:21 pm »
I think it is a bad idea to put this in the same element as black hole:
This card gets soft-countered by rainbows (more quanta generation),
but blackhole counters said rainbows.
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Re: Graviton Knucklehead | Graviton Knocker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58463.msg1190865#msg1190865
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2015, 06:47:46 pm »
Lovely idea, but massively OP. 1 quanta knocked on each form with the upped version being above Thunderbolt range would be ok. MAYBE 1 quanta on unupped and 2 on upped, but 2 and 3 is crazy imo
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Re: Graviton Knucklehead | Graviton Knocker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58463.msg1190868#msg1190868
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2015, 07:01:47 pm »
Devourer|Pest has a net swing of 2 quanta (destroy 1 + gain 1).

I don't thing the stat boosts(+4atk, hp from 2 to 6) are balanced against the cost increase (+3). This is before looking at Stone Form or the upgraded card.
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Re: Graviton Knucklehead | Graviton Knocker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58463.msg1190869#msg1190869
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2015, 07:04:56 pm »
I'd argue that quanta swing is very different from lock-down potential. devourers are already very good at locking down an opponent, these things would destroy non-rainbow quanta production in their current form I think :/
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Re: Graviton Knucklehead | Graviton Knocker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58463.msg1190870#msg1190870
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2015, 07:13:56 pm »
I'd argue that quanta swing is very different from lock-down potential. devourers are already very good at locking down an opponent, these things would destroy non-rainbow quanta production in their current form I think :/
I don't know. Devourers have exponential growth due to the quanta generation half of their swing. This obviously synergies with their low cost.
On the other hand, Devourers do have a lower cap.

So while they are different, I don't think it works out to a difference in strength. It seems to be merely a difference in kinds.
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Re: Graviton Knucklehead | Graviton Knocker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58463.msg1190996#msg1190996
« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2015, 10:05:09 pm »
There really isn't much point to giving Stone Form to a creature with more than 5 HP. I'd say to lower the HP to 3 or 4 and lower the quanta knock off amount to 1 and 2. Adrenaline might still be a problem though, 6 quanta knock off per turn is dangerous.
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Re: Graviton Knucklehead | Graviton Knocker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58463.msg1191000#msg1191000
« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2015, 10:36:10 pm »
There really isn't much point to giving Stone Form to a creature with more than 5 HP. I'd say to lower the HP to 3 or 4 and lower the quanta knock off amount to 1 and 2. Adrenaline might still be a problem though, 6 quanta knock off per turn is dangerous.

It would work like every other effect-on-attack creature. Only two procs, the first hit and the last hit.
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Re: Graviton Knucklehead | Graviton Knocker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58463.msg1191007#msg1191007
« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2015, 11:01:46 pm »
There really isn't much point to giving Stone Form to a creature with more than 5 HP.

Perhaps, but in  :gravity it's useful. You have another creature to use GP or Catapult on
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Re: Graviton Knucklehead | Graviton Knocker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58463.msg1191023#msg1191023
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2015, 02:07:39 am »
I think it is a bad idea to put this in the same element as black hole:
This card gets soft-countered by rainbows (more quanta generation),
but blackhole counters said rainbows.
Ah. Well, what other Element would this work in apart from Earth?

Lovely idea, but massively OP. 1 quanta knocked on each form with the upped version being above Thunderbolt range would be ok. MAYBE 1 quanta on unupped and 2 on upped, but 2 and 3 is crazy imo
Devourer|Pest has a net swing of 2 quanta (destroy 1 + gain 1).

I don't thing the stat boosts(+4atk, hp from 2 to 6) are balanced against the cost increase (+3). This is before looking at Stone Form or the upgraded card.

Will nerf again.

 

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