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Re: Rune Sword | Rune Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23980.msg307938#msg307938
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2011, 12:57:44 am »
Stones don't squawk.
They also don't fly away after being thrown. :P
Nice  :P They actually do fly away if you 'animate' it. This is a weapon card after all.
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Re: Rune Sword | Rune Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23980.msg309563#msg309563
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2011, 10:05:57 pm »
I'm not sure what to do with this card. It's mechanic may be overly complex, but the issue of complex mechanics has been dealt with before, and as you can see the complexity may be a good thing sometimes.
* Ok, but that's still a too complex mechanic, I mean, it'll have me counting the clock position and speed rate, etc...

True. And false, too. There are many complex mechanism in Elements. Let's say, Mutation. Mutation is in itself a rather complex mechanism (I mean, there are various probabilities of effects, combinations with other skills like Dejà Vu, Hatch, etc...). But what happens in game? You cast it on your Skeletons (or whatever else), hoping that it'll work, and that's all. You don't bother thinking about each detail, because it is overall a good deal, bringing new, and somehow interesting game possibilities.
(This is from a card currently in the Forge, Elemental Clockwork | Elemental Chronometer (http://67.18.28.242/~eleforum/index.php/topic,17373.0.html).)

I feel this card needs more discussion.

EDIT - I also made a slight change to the card wording.

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Re: Rune Sword | Rune Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23980.msg309635#msg309635
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2011, 12:21:41 am »
Maybe, to uncomplicate it somewhat, change the effect from having 12 choices to 6 - the element pairs. Although some abilities might have to be changed then.
Or, maybe have it come into play with runes of a specific element (based on mark?)
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Re: Rune Sword | Rune Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23980.msg309639#msg309639
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2011, 12:28:36 am »
Maybe, to uncomplicate it somewhat, change the effect from having 12 choices to 6 - the element pairs. Although some abilities might have to be changed then.
Or, maybe have it come into play with runes of a specific element (based on mark?)
It's not the fact that many abilities makes it complicated - it seems that certain players have a problem with it not directly stating the effect.

However, I did a search and found a similar card made by TII callled Secret Power | Ancient Power (http://67.18.28.242/~eleforum/index.php/topic,21908.msg299817#msg299817), which looks like a pretty good card as well. I'm beggining to think this card is fine the way it is.

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Re: Rune Sword | Rune Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23980.msg310194#msg310194
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2011, 11:50:48 pm »
Well Zblader I don't relish the task you have set yourself here with the sword. It's gonna be just a hard as my "Runes" seires. I thought of the sword first and based the runes on it with a few other ideas in mind as well. (Like debuffing perments. I.E. weapons and shields.)  Oh and please note from what Keal Hate told me when I was doing that seires Shield's skills are active. The damage reducting on shields is the passive part. 
Anyway if any of the runes I made befor can help please feel free to steal them in making this Weapon better. Or even if they spark an idea for you in this feel free to use it in anyway.
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Re: Rune Sword | Rune Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23980.msg310259#msg310259
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2011, 02:05:53 am »
After some discussion from Oldtrees it's probably best to archive this idea. It ends up being to overly complicated to most people with the introduction of 12 abilites instead of just 1.

I may or may not revive it someday, but now it doesn't fare so well in terms of mechanics or veteran approval.

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Re: Rune Sword | Rune Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23980.msg310277#msg310277
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2011, 02:54:50 am »
My first thought was "Neat, a weapon that endows!" Then I thought, "What if I had a Crusader?" Then my head started to hurt. Nice try tho, Z. Still...

Perhaps if it was based off your opponent's Mark instead? Or even your own?
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Re: Rune Sword | Rune Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23980.msg310278#msg310278
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2011, 02:58:22 am »
My first thought was "Neat, a weapon that endows!" Then I thought, "What if I had a Crusader?" Then my head started to hurt. Nice try tho, Z. Still...

Perhaps if it was based off your opponent's Mark instead? Or even your own?
It could be Unendowable. That would save a lot of headaches for you
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Re: Rune Sword | Rune Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23980.msg310290#msg310290
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2011, 03:17:07 am »
Reverse endowing... that's it. Thank you Werdbooty.

Reworked the effect.

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Re: Rune Sword | Rune Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23980.msg310294#msg310294
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2011, 03:20:03 am »
I like it. Not only does it open up a lot of options for Crusader, it also allows for a PC/CC contingency plan. Nice idea
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Re: Rune Sword | Rune Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23980.msg310317#msg310317
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2011, 04:24:08 am »
does this card steal the ability, or copy the ability?

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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2011, 08:51:39 pm »
does this card steal the ability, or copy the ability?
Copy.

 

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