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Rune | Sigil https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54006.msg1129354#msg1129354
« on: March 12, 2014, 11:19:50 pm »
NAME:
Rune
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
1 :aether
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:aether :aether :aether : Infinity
Discard a random card, then draw a card. Can be used multiple times a turn.
NAME:
Sigil
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
4 :aether
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:aether : Infinity
Discard a random card, then draw a card. Can be used multiple times a turn.

ART:

IDEA:
skyironsword
NOTES:
If you have no cards in hand, you draw a card without discarding, though I would be happy to change that.
SERIES:

Spoiler for Old Version:
NAME:
Rune
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
0
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:aether :aether :aether : Infinity
Discard a random card, then draw a card. Can be used multiple times a turn.
NAME:
Sigil
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
7 :aether
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:aether : Infinity
Discard a random card, then draw a card. Can be used multiple times a turn.

ART:

IDEA:
skyironsword
NOTES:
I don't know what I'm doing, either.
SERIES:

« Last Edit: March 13, 2014, 07:58:13 pm by skyironsword »

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Re: Rune | Sigil https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54006.msg1129357#msg1129357
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2014, 11:45:10 pm »
Why the unupped has no cost and the upped 7?? O.o well its not a bad idea but 0 cost?? I think unupped is kinda op
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Re: Rune | Sigil https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54006.msg1129359#msg1129359
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2014, 11:53:22 pm »
The unupped is much harder to use; if you use it more than twice the upped would be better.

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Re: Rune | Sigil https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54006.msg1129369#msg1129369
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2014, 02:18:37 am »
Thats an odd way to balance the upped vs unupped... not sure what to make of it exactly.

I like the effect. Risky, but it basically lets you sift through your deck for a card you want... at the expense of possibly getting rid of a lot of cards you may need later in the process.

I think the cost could be lower.
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Re: Rune | Sigil https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54006.msg1129372#msg1129372
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2014, 02:58:58 am »
I would put a cost of 1 :aether or 2 :aether to Rune in order to prevent it from messing with the starting hand. Also, I would reduce Sigil's cost to 5 :aether or 4 :aether
Its effect can't be abused because you don't gain card advantage (1 draw-1 discard). However, the player should be able to select the discarded card; it is too risky otherwise.
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Re: Rune | Sigil https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54006.msg1129374#msg1129374
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2014, 03:54:06 am »
Putting some theory work on it...
Rune:
3 (Draw*) -2 (Discard [random]) -1 (Activation Cost [3]) +3 (Multiple Activations**) -2 (Unstackable***) = 1 :aether
Sigil:
3 (Draw*) -2 (Discard [random]) +1 (Activation Cost [1]) +3 (Multiple Activations**) -2 (Unstackable***) = 3 :aether

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***Determined due to the multiple use, which makes copies useless (similar to Nightfall).

Just a design question, but does the draw still work if you have no cards to discard?
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Re: Rune | Sigil https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54006.msg1129386#msg1129386
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2014, 08:33:33 am »
I personally like the risk - it makes it less abusable and requires some thought to play. I agree that the unupped should cost at least 1, and the upped could be lowered to 5-6, but that's just balancing. I think this is a really cool idea. (Not sure why you put it in aether, but that's just up to opinion in this case)
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Re: Rune | Sigil https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54006.msg1129393#msg1129393
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2014, 11:16:33 am »
I like it, but I would just make it cost 3-2 with 1 cost ability. RNG proof RoL Hope is the first deck that comes to my mind. Oh and draw 2 cards.
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Re: Rune | Sigil https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54006.msg1129405#msg1129405
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2014, 02:54:32 pm »
Sure, just let all the monoaethers get their dimshields faster. :P
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Re: Rune | Sigil https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54006.msg1129407#msg1129407
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2014, 03:16:51 pm »
I like it, but I would just make it cost 3-2 with 1 cost ability. RNG proof RoL Hope is the first deck that comes to my mind. Oh and draw 2 cards.
If it draws 2 cards, it would also need to discard 2 cards. Otherwise it would start allowing card advantage
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Re: Rune | Sigil https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54006.msg1130489#msg1130489
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2014, 12:43:27 am »
Alright, if you are seeing this message I am currently changing the cost of Rune to 1 and Sigil to 4...

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Re: Rune | Sigil https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54006.msg1130672#msg1130672
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2014, 05:59:20 pm »
Definitely an interesting card now.
Makes a great way to get rid of junk cards from mind gate. Good for hunting for an emergency Dim. Shield too.
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