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Re: Chaos Shield | Chaos Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52350.msg1109401#msg1109401
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2013, 02:15:58 am »



As a side point, I think 60% chance to do nothing is too high. Considering Chaos seed might do something useless like lobo a vanilla creature or web a grounded creature. 50,30,10,10 is how I would divide up the chances.
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Re: Chaos Shield | Chaos Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52350.msg1109403#msg1109403
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2013, 02:18:44 am »



As a side point, I think 60% chance to do nothing is too high. Considering Chaos seed might do something useless like lobo a vanilla creature or web a grounded creature. 50,30,10,10 is how I would divide up the chances.

but it has no abilities  :P

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Re: Chaos Shield | Chaos Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52350.msg1109406#msg1109406
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2013, 02:26:02 am »



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Re: Chaos Shield | Chaos Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52350.msg1109424#msg1109424
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2013, 05:39:06 am »
upgraded version can't be stronger and cheaper than unupgraded

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Re: Chaos Shield | Chaos Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52350.msg1109552#msg1109552
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2013, 02:47:58 am »
Here is some 'art' I don't really plan on using soon.
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It doesn't really look that much like a shield but well, there you go. It's okay if you don't use it though.
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Re: Chaos Shield | Chaos Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52350.msg1109572#msg1109572
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2013, 05:59:12 am »
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Here is some 'art' I don't really plan on using soon.

and . Sorry if they're gigantic.

It doesn't really look that much like a shield but well, there you go. It's okay if you don't use it though.

Well, it should be called drug shield :D
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Re: Chaos Shield | Chaos Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52350.msg1109579#msg1109579
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2013, 06:47:15 am »
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Here is some 'art' I don't really plan on using soon.

and . Sorry if they're gigantic.

It doesn't really look that much like a shield but well, there you go. It's okay if you don't use it though.

Well, it should be called drug shield :D

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Re: Chaos Shield | Chaos Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52350.msg1109613#msg1109613
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2013, 03:38:39 pm »

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Here is some 'art' I don't really plan on using soon.

and . Sorry if they're gigantic.

It doesn't really look that much like a shield but well, there you go. It's okay if you don't use it though.

I originally had an idea called 'Drugs' or 'Steroids' which had this art, but then I forgot what the idea was.
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Re: Chaos Shield | Chaos Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52350.msg1109614#msg1109614
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2013, 03:48:14 pm »
What if you changed it to random things will happen always, good and bad? For example, 70% debuffs/status, and 30% buffs? I think the rate to do nothing should atleast be decreased to 50%.

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Re: Chaos Shield | Chaos Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52350.msg1109690#msg1109690
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2013, 09:48:18 pm »
A 40% chance for something to happen may not seem like a lot to some of you, but that's a fairly high statistical chance.
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Re: Chaos Shield | Chaos Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52350.msg1109695#msg1109695
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2013, 10:18:54 pm »
Compared to Skull Shield, this is very weak. What's chances compared to Skull Shield?
I think the chances for random things to happen should be raised.
That said, I would like to try using this with eternity. Then you could rewind the mutants to the opponents deck. Unless they play a 'bow or have :entropy, this would be a very neat way to lock down creature production against most decks.

A 40% chance for something to happen may not seem like a lot to some of you, but that's a fairly high statistical chance.
Its not bad, but this shield could very likely make the attacker stronger if it is weak to begin with, unlike skull shield which produces a measly skeleton.
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Re: Chaos Shield | Chaos Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52350.msg1109707#msg1109707
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2013, 12:18:11 am »
I like the idea. The only way I can see to tweak these probabilities reliably would be some kind of playtest.

It's also interesting that it works better on the situations that skull shield is weaker (big, expensive creatures with more health) and viceversa (skull shield works great against spammed, small creatures).

It also reminds me of this shield http://goblinscomic.wikia.com/wiki/Shield_of_Wonder
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