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Removed by thread maker. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24976.msg318289#msg318289
« on: April 23, 2011, 04:52:19 pm »
This Card Idea has been removed by the user that made this thread. This used to be a card that switched hands.
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Re: Switch-a-roo : Switch-a-roo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24976.msg318293#msg318293
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2011, 04:58:27 pm »
You fail to realize that I could empty my hand and then play this card, no? OP.

Hand-stealing strategies are frowned upon, and I'm not sure how you can make this balanced.
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Re: Switch-a-roo : Switch-a-roo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24976.msg318295#msg318295
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2011, 04:59:15 pm »
Ok, I edited it. Won't be back to see all the comments because I have to go.
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Re: Switch-a-roo : Switch-a-roo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24976.msg318314#msg318314
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2011, 05:22:52 pm »
Slight problem. Both players cannot act on the same turn much less the same card. Zanz has vetoed cards that require both player to act on the same turn.
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Re: Switch-a-roo : Switch-a-roo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24976.msg318396#msg318396
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2011, 07:26:50 pm »
Quote from: OldTrees on April 23, 2011, 05:22:52 pm
Slight problem. Both players cannot act on the same turn much less the same card. Zanz has vetoed cards that require both player to act on the same turn.
How are they acting on the same turn? All that is happening is that you are switching your hand with your opponents hand but each person is keeping 1 card that they don't want to be switched.
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Re: Switch-a-roo : Switch-a-roo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24976.msg318399#msg318399
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2011, 07:29:03 pm »
Quote from: Masterfurry on April 23, 2011, 07:26:50 pm
Quote from: OldTrees on April 23, 2011, 05:22:52 pm
Slight problem. Both players cannot act on the same turn much less the same card. Zanz has vetoed cards that require both player to act on the same turn.
How are they acting on the same turn? All that is happening is that you are switching your hand with your opponents hand but each person is keeping 1 card that they don't want to be switched.
Both players would have to select a card to keep. That requires a click of the mouse. A click of the mouse is an action.
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Re: Switch-a-roo : Switch-a-roo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24976.msg318433#msg318433
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2011, 08:26:10 pm »
Ok, so should I take that out? You don't keep a card?
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Re: Switch-a-roo : Switch-a-roo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24976.msg318439#msg318439
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2011, 08:31:20 pm »
Quote from: Masterfurry on April 23, 2011, 08:26:10 pm
Ok, so should I take that out? You don't keep a card?
Take it out, Change it, or discard it.
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Re: Switch-a-roo : Switch-a-roo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24976.msg318470#msg318470
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2011, 09:00:04 pm »
Quote from: OldTrees on April 23, 2011, 08:31:20 pm
Quote from: Masterfurry on April 23, 2011, 08:26:10 pm
Ok, so should I take that out? You don't keep a card?
Take it out, Change it, or discard it.
EDITED.
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Re: Switch-a-roo : Switch-a-roo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24976.msg318477#msg318477
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2011, 09:05:25 pm »
shouldn't the Title be "Switch-a-roo | Switch-a-roo"?
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Re: Switch-a-roo : Switch-a-roo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24976.msg318490#msg318490
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2011, 09:15:07 pm »
You
Cards lost: 3-7
Cards Gained: 3-7

Opponent
Cards lost: 3-7
Cards Gained: 3-7

You: Rainbow vs Opponent: undefined Duo
Switch-a-roo would be played at 3-4 cards vs 6-7 cards

You
Cards lost: 3-4
Cards gained: 6-7 (a rainbow can use any card)
Net gain: 2-4

Opponent
Cards lost: 6-7
Cards gained: .5-.67 (a duo can only use 1/6 of cards)
Net loss: 5-7

Net estimated card advantage: 7-11
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Re: Switch-a-roo : Switch-a-roo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24976.msg318601#msg318601
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2011, 12:07:04 am »
Quote from: OldTrees on April 23, 2011, 09:15:07 pm
You
Cards lost: 3-7
Cards Gained: 3-7

Opponent
Cards lost: 3-7
Cards Gained: 3-7

You: Rainbow vs Opponent: undefined Duo
Switch-a-roo would be played at 3-4 cards vs 6-7 cards

You
Cards lost: 3-4
Cards gained: 6-7 (a rainbow can use any card)
Net gain: 2-4

Opponent
Cards lost: 6-7
Cards gained: .5-.67 (a duo can only use 1/6 of cards)
Net loss: 5-7

Net estimated card advantage: 7-11
Would this be positive or to show that the card would not work?
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