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Remove | Improved Remove https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58891.msg1196637#msg1196637
« on: July 13, 2015, 05:34:01 pm »
NAME:
Remove
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
1 :aether
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Target creature gains -1 | -1 and loses all passive abilities.
NAME:
Improved Remove
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
0
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Target creature gains -2 | -2 ans loses all passive abilities.

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NAME:
Remove
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
6 :aether
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Remove the target creature's passive ability.
NAME:
Improved Remove
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
5 :aether
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Remove the target creature's passivve ability.

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« Last Edit: July 13, 2015, 06:16:39 pm by Frozengaia »
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Re: Remove | Improved Remove https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58891.msg1196639#msg1196639
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2015, 05:39:35 pm »
Reduce the cost. To 1 :aether. Or even just outright free.

Note that passives are much weaker than actives. Thus, a card that removes passives should cost less than lobo or mind flayer.

And even then, lightning kills over 50% of the creatures in the game.

An element change could be considered - after all, the singularity interaction is hilarious. Make might TIP potent.

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Re: Remove | Improved Remove https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58891.msg1196640#msg1196640
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2015, 05:40:00 pm »
Highly overprized. Actually, the effect itself is so weak, that this card could be free and still wouldn't see much use.

Just consider what cards are affected by this. Mummy/Undead are never-used, mutant doesn't do anything really. Voodoo is actually the only worthful target. To remove the ability of only one Devourer/Airborne is also not that useful. In most cases, a Lightning is just better, and not so situational.

In order to make this better, you should strengthen the effect, let it gain quanta as well or anything more original.
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Re: Remove | Improved Remove https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58891.msg1196642#msg1196642
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2015, 06:01:11 pm »
I wouldn't use this. The effect simply isn't worth it.

Maybe "Target creature gains -1|-1 and loses all passive abilities" would be worth it. -2|-2 for the upped.

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Re: Remove | Improved Remove https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58891.msg1196788#msg1196788
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2015, 10:13:27 am »
so with the new, someone has to ask

can damage go negative?

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Re: Remove | Improved Remove https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58891.msg1196806#msg1196806
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2015, 02:17:56 pm »
so with the new, someone has to ask

can damage go negative?
I don't see why not. Cast it on a enemy Warden and you will have him heal the creature he locks. The upped version might turn a Salvager into a -1|4 creature or a Pesto into a -2|2 without it's annoying passive skill. It wouldn't be too powerful after all and fun to use. I like the concept of this card.

I think this card is especially conceived to remove the Psion spell damage. I wonder if it can target immaterial creatures.

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Re: Remove | Improved Remove https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58891.msg1196807#msg1196807
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2015, 02:25:07 pm »
This card is much better now, good work. The upped could still cost 1 quanta, though.

I think this card is especially conceived to remove the Psion spell damage. I wonder if it can target immaterial creatures.
"Psion" is an active ability.
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Re: Remove | Improved Remove https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58891.msg1196829#msg1196829
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2015, 05:14:16 pm »
This card is much better now, good work. The upped could still cost 1 quanta, though.

I think this card is especially conceived to remove the Psion spell damage. I wonder if it can target immaterial creatures.
"Psion" is an active ability.
It is? I thought that any ability that didn't require any activation by the player was to be considered as "passive".

P.S.: I checked in-game and, indeed, under the passive abilities of the Psion only "Airborne" is listed as passive. My mistake.  :)
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Re: Remove | Improved Remove https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58891.msg1196854#msg1196854
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2015, 07:07:22 pm »
This card is much better now, good work. The upped could still cost 1 quanta, though.

I think this card is especially conceived to remove the Psion spell damage. I wonder if it can target immaterial creatures.
"Psion" is an active ability.
It is? I thought that any ability that didn't require any activation by the player was to be considered as "passive".

P.S.: I checked in-game and, indeed, under the passive abilities of the Psion only "Airborne" is listed as passive. My mistake.  :)

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