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Remnant of Fire | Remnant of Fire https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27172.msg345304#msg345304
« on: June 03, 2011, 05:47:21 am »
NAME:
Remnant of Fire
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
5 :fire
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
The target Creature gains Explosive and changes its element to Fire.
NAME:
Remnant of Fire
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
4 :fire
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
The target Creature gains Explosive and changes its element to Fire.
ART:
Luminous Umbra
IDEA:
Luminous Umbra
NOTES:
Explosive: When a creature with Explosive is destroyed, all creatures on the field are dealt 2 damage.

Explosive is passive and one creature with explosive can trigger another.

When a creature changes element, it counts as the element it is changed to and does not count as the element it was until it is destroyed. Any effects that revolve around the element of the creature change after the activation of the card that changes the creature's element.

Example: You play Remnant of Fire and target a Black Dragon you control. If you had a Nightfall out, the dragon would lose the +1/+1 bonus after the activation of Remnant of Fire.
SERIES:
Essence of Elementals

Re: Remnant of Fire | Remnant of Fire https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27172.msg346171#msg346171
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2011, 01:22:01 am »
No comments? I'm sure this card isn't perfect, any constructive criticism?

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Re: Remnant of Fire | Remnant of Fire https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27172.msg346247#msg346247
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2011, 03:30:46 am »
So if you use this with Schro cat can it just explode over and over?

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Re: Remnant of Fire | Remnant of Fire https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27172.msg346249#msg346249
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2011, 03:32:05 am »
So if you use this with Schro cat can it just explode over and over?
I think Explode would override Dead and Alive.

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Re: Remnant of Fire | Remnant of Fire https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27172.msg346250#msg346250
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2011, 03:32:49 am »
So if you use this with Schro cat can it just explode over and over?
I think Explode would override Dead and Alive.
Explosive is passive

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Re: Remnant of Fire | Remnant of Fire https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27172.msg346251#msg346251
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2011, 03:35:51 am »
So if you use this with Schro cat can it just explode over and over?
No, because the card isn't destroyed.
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Re: Remnant of Fire | Remnant of Fire https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27172.msg346253#msg346253
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2011, 03:38:06 am »
There's a certain confusion to what passive and active abilities are, I think. The wiki lists all creature skills as being active, whereas passive refers to Airborne and the like. Phoenix and Vulture, while both having abilities that auto activate, are still considered active abilities, whereas they have Airborne passive.

Re: Remnant of Fire | Remnant of Fire https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27172.msg346321#msg346321
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2011, 07:24:39 am »
So if you use this with Schro cat can it just explode over and over?
No, because the card isn't destroyed.
Correct. The key word is "destroyed", as it has to leave the field. Schro cat, just makes it as if it had died. Besides, even if its ability did trigger Explosive, the resulting 2 damage would kill it.

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Re: Remnant of Fire | Remnant of Fire https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27172.msg346482#msg346482
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2011, 06:21:35 pm »
So sparks+explosive=yes?
You should also make it if any creature with explosive is devoured the creature that ate is is instantly killed.

Re: Remnant of Fire | Remnant of Fire https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27172.msg347252#msg347252
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2011, 05:00:43 am »
So sparks+explosive=yes?
You should also make it if any creature with explosive is devoured the creature that ate is is instantly killed.
If so, should the two damage to the field not happen?

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Re: Remnant of Fire | Remnant of Fire https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27172.msg347436#msg347436
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2011, 03:40:28 pm »
The devour addition seems to be an overcomplication, IMHO. It looks fine ATM since Spark + Remnant needs 2-3 cards, where RoF only needs 1.

Just checking - is Explosive an innate active (lobotomizer stops it, appears under creature) or Perpetual Passive (lobotomizer doesn't stop it, appears in the little description window.)?

Re: Remnant of Fire | Remnant of Fire https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27172.msg347748#msg347748
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2011, 02:19:54 am »
The devour addition seems to be an overcomplication, IMHO. It looks fine ATM since Spark + Remnant needs 2-3 cards, where RoF only needs 1.

Just checking - is Explosive an innate active (lobotomizer stops it, appears under creature) or Perpetual Passive (lobotomizer doesn't stop it, appears in the little description window.)?
I'm thinking it should be Perpetual, because as you said, RoF takes one card, plus it does more damage, removes invisibility, and it doesn't target your field.

 

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