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Realised Insanity | Demented Truth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54571.msg1137358#msg1137358
« on: May 22, 2014, 11:10:28 am »
NAME:
Realised Insanity
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
None
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
-10 | 1
TEXT:
If this creature would die, It gains +1 | -1 instead. Death effects still trigger.


NAME:
Demented Truth
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
-1 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
-10 | 1
TEXT:
If this creature would die, it gains +1 | -1 instead. Death effects still trigger.


ART:
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IDEA:
Frozengaia
NOTES:
After my... uhhh... Thing... (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/pre-smithy-ideas/unspark-paradoxical-anomaly-(really-stupid)/) I decided to play around with negative numbers and create this.
Really self explanatory; it can't die, it gets +1 | -1 if it would (So it's getting +1 every turn), and you gain one aether when you play it.
...Fun, no?
Gravity pull does nothing on this creature, btw.
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« Last Edit: May 24, 2014, 01:56:54 pm by Frozengaia »

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Re: Realised Insanity | Demented Truth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54571.msg1137359#msg1137359
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2014, 11:16:52 am »
Bonebolt 2.0 :P
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Re: Realised Insanity | Demented Truth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54571.msg1137360#msg1137360
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2014, 11:30:58 am »
so, instead of dying, it gets negative health, and dies?
be quick- time is quanta.

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Re: Realised Insanity | Demented Truth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54571.msg1137361#msg1137361
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2014, 11:38:28 am »
so, instead of dying, it gets negative health, and dies?

No it keeps getting negative, because if it would die it creates the death trigger but only gets +1|-1 instead. The only way to stop the death triggers would be buffing its health, so each time it gets harder to stop them. After a while they start attacking the opponent too.
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Re: Realised Insanity | Demented Truth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54571.msg1137362#msg1137362
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2014, 11:55:09 am »
Andre is correct.
It gets +1 | -1 a turn, essentially, unless you give it positive HP.
It'll start healing at first, but It'll grow... and grow... and grow... Not as fast as lava golems, but it gives aether quanta for playing it and it's far more reliable... and somewhat rainbow.

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Re: Realised Insanity | Demented Truth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54571.msg1137373#msg1137373
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2014, 02:26:18 pm »
This card makes the kittens useless. 1 death trigger per turn for free + gain quanta + increase damage in the same unkillable card is OP in every possible way.
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Re: Realised Insanity | Demented Truth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54571.msg1137385#msg1137385
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2014, 04:12:47 pm »
Having it be both unkillable and gain extra attack each turn is a little to exploitable.
Consider what happens if someone starts popping rage potions onto it. You would get an unkillable creature with an enormous attack power in a few turns. It just doesn't seem like a good idea.

I'm not sure the negative HPs effect is really useful... just seems needlessly complex. I guess it would be a way to prevent players from catapulting it for fun, but that doesn't seem like a very important combo to block.

If it lost ATK instead of gaining ATK when it died, it might be more doable.
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Re: Realised Insanity | Demented Truth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54571.msg1137392#msg1137392
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2014, 04:37:15 pm »
Having it be both unkillable and gain extra attack each turn is a little to exploitable.
Consider what happens if someone starts popping rage potions onto it. You would get an unkillable creature with an enormous attack power in a few turns. It just doesn't seem like a good idea.

I'm not sure the negative HPs effect is really useful... just seems needlessly complex. I guess it would be a way to prevent players from catapulting it for fun, but that doesn't seem like a very important combo to block.

If it lost ATK instead of gaining ATK when it died, it might be more doable.

It'd become mainly a stall card (bonewall and lightning are the main combos). It still steals kitty's role (the main problem is that cats are a bit UP and this is a more competent version of what they do).

Letting the HP go into the negatives instead of fixing it a zero is for making the triggers harder to stop I think.
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Re: Realised Insanity | Demented Truth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54571.msg1137394#msg1137394
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2014, 05:42:52 pm »
this + fractal (or mitosis) + bone wall = shards UP, buff em! :P
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Re: Realised Insanity | Demented Truth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54571.msg1137404#msg1137404
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2014, 07:52:39 pm »
Make the HP increase along with the attack, so the death trigger doesn't... trigger.

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Re: Realised Insanity | Demented Truth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54571.msg1137652#msg1137652
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2014, 01:45:35 pm »
This creature can still be frozen, stasis'd, SowQuintReflected, Mutated, and RT'd.
The negative HP is to stop it being so easy to murder.
If you're worrying about gravity pull, don't; it'll go away the second the death effect triggers.

Shrodinger's cat is arguably the worst card in the game, and as a result calling this card more powerful says next to nothing.

Given these factors, I would hesitate to call this card OP. More powerful than it should be, yes...

It'll raise the ATK of both cards to -10 and each card's HP to 1.


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Re: Realised Insanity | Demented Truth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54571.msg1137655#msg1137655
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2014, 01:50:52 pm »
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