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Readied Sniper/Elite Sniper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57937.msg1184053#msg1184053
« on: March 30, 2015, 03:57:56 am »
NAME:
Readied Sniper
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
4 :air
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 1
TEXT:
0: Deal 2^X Damage 2 Enemy

X = Turns Since Ability Was Last Used, Up To 5.
NAME:
Elite Sniper
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
4 :air
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 1
TEXT:
0: Deal 3^X Damage 2 Enemy

X = Turns Since Ability Was Last Used, Up To 3.

ART:
artist name here
IDEA:
Torriku, with help from deathreign3 for balancing
NOTES:
notes

okay now without jokes, upped may do less damage at maximum potency, but it does damage much faster.

Spoiler for Synergies:
  • Cloak can easily hide this while it builds up damage, though countered by mass CC.
  • Adrenaline Can allow for this to build up damage much faster.
  • Immaterial can make this a great damage builder.
SERIES:
series name (if any)]
« Last Edit: March 30, 2015, 04:00:18 am by Torriku »
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Re: Readied Sniper/Elite Sniper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57937.msg1184087#msg1184087
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2015, 11:54:18 am »
Just X damage would be strong enough
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Re: Readied Sniper/Elite Sniper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57937.msg1184088#msg1184088
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2015, 11:58:55 am »
Just X damage would be strong enough
Huh? Just 1*X damage or any C*X damage would give no incentive to not spam the ability (excluding corner cases like healing). To give an incentive to wait the damage acceleration(2nd derivative) needs to be positive.
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Re: Readied Sniper/Elite Sniper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57937.msg1184167#msg1184167
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2015, 10:58:40 pm »
Just X damage would be strong enough
Huh? Just 1*X damage or any C*X damage would give no incentive to not spam the ability (excluding corner cases like healing). To give an incentive to wait the damage acceleration(2nd derivative) needs to be positive.

Well thanks for answering a question for me. And you hit spot on why I didn't just do x damage. with x damage it wouldn't matter how fast/slow you used it you would get same damage output straight out. Putting the damage to the X power, causes it to do more damage if you wait and fire 1 shot, instead of rapidly shooting.
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Re: Readied Sniper/Elite Sniper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57937.msg1184176#msg1184176
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2015, 11:54:59 pm »
Just X damage would be strong enough
Huh? Just 1*X damage or any C*X damage would give no incentive to not spam the ability (excluding corner cases like healing). To give an incentive to wait the damage acceleration(2nd derivative) needs to be positive.

Well thanks for answering a question for me. And you hit spot on why I didn't just do x damage. with x damage it wouldn't matter how fast/slow you used it you would get same damage output straight out. Putting the damage to the X power, causes it to do more damage if you wait and fire 1 shot, instead of rapidly shooting.

I would note that many functions have a positive acceleration. Exponential growth and Polynomial growth being main examples. Why 2X|3X? (Question is deceptively simple)
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Re: Readied Sniper/Elite Sniper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57937.msg1184178#msg1184178
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2015, 12:04:34 am »
The way I see it, the use of exponential growth for a skill can be synergized with many of the cards in Elements as well as making many strategies in Elements.
I can pair this with Cloak, Momentum, Immortality (Quintessence), etc.
I can use this to bait out enemy CC with this.
The possibilities are plenty with this card.

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Re: Readied Sniper/Elite Sniper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57937.msg1184196#msg1184196
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2015, 01:05:58 am »
Its a nice card, as its automatically boost power per turn without
the player tapping every turn.

Although the ability text seems a bit intimidating.

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Re: Readied Sniper/Elite Sniper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57937.msg1184209#msg1184209
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2015, 01:42:47 am »
Just X damage would be strong enough
Huh? Just 1*X damage or any C*X damage would give no incentive to not spam the ability (excluding corner cases like healing). To give an incentive to wait the damage acceleration(2nd derivative) needs to be positive.

Well thanks for answering a question for me. And you hit spot on why I didn't just do x damage. with x damage it wouldn't matter how fast/slow you used it you would get same damage output straight out. Putting the damage to the X power, causes it to do more damage if you wait and fire 1 shot, instead of rapidly shooting.

I would note that many functions have a positive acceleration. Exponential growth and Polynomial growth being main examples. Why 2X|3X? (Question is deceptively simple)

At unupped 2x can deal more max damage, allowing for those who want to otk a easier way. While for higher damage total 3x but with a smaller maximum will make it do more damage overall, though still less per hit.


Its a nice card, as its automatically boost power per turn without
the player tapping every turn.

Although the ability text seems a bit intimidating.
What do you mean?
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Re: Readied Sniper/Elite Sniper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57937.msg1184213#msg1184213
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2015, 01:54:12 am »
Just X damage would be strong enough
Huh? Just 1*X damage or any C*X damage would give no incentive to not spam the ability (excluding corner cases like healing). To give an incentive to wait the damage acceleration(2nd derivative) needs to be positive.

Well thanks for answering a question for me. And you hit spot on why I didn't just do x damage. with x damage it wouldn't matter how fast/slow you used it you would get same damage output straight out. Putting the damage to the X power, causes it to do more damage if you wait and fire 1 shot, instead of rapidly shooting.

I would note that many functions have a positive acceleration. Exponential growth and Polynomial growth being main examples. Why 2X|3X? (Question is deceptively simple)

At unupped 2x can deal more max damage, allowing for those who want to otk a easier way. While for higher damage total 3x but with a smaller maximum will make it do more damage overall, though still less per hit.

The question was deceptively simple. Of the family of equations Y=a(x^b)(c^x), why (a,b,c) (1,0,2)|(1,0,3)? Was it a random choice or did it have thought/a reason behind it?
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Re: Readied Sniper/Elite Sniper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57937.msg1184214#msg1184214
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2015, 01:58:32 am »
Just X damage would be strong enough
Huh? Just 1*X damage or any C*X damage would give no incentive to not spam the ability (excluding corner cases like healing). To give an incentive to wait the damage acceleration(2nd derivative) needs to be positive.

Well thanks for answering a question for me. And you hit spot on why I didn't just do x damage. with x damage it wouldn't matter how fast/slow you used it you would get same damage output straight out. Putting the damage to the X power, causes it to do more damage if you wait and fire 1 shot, instead of rapidly shooting.

I would note that many functions have a positive acceleration. Exponential growth and Polynomial growth being main examples. Why 2X|3X? (Question is deceptively simple)

At unupped 2x can deal more max damage, allowing for those who want to otk a easier way. While for higher damage total 3x but with a smaller maximum will make it do more damage overall, though still less per hit.

The question was deceptively simple. Of the family of equations Y=a(x^b)(c^x), why (a,b,c) (1,0,2)|(1,0,3)? Was it a random choice or did it have thought/a reason behind it?

Haveing 0|1 is as its an archer pulling back the string to fire. The 0 cost, it doesn't take to pull back the string. and the 2 was orginal idea, and 3 was because of balance.
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Re: Readied Sniper/Elite Sniper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57937.msg1184219#msg1184219
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2015, 02:44:44 am »
Quote
Quote
Its a nice card, as its automatically boost power per turn without
the player tapping every turn.

Although the ability text seems a bit intimidating.
What do you mean?
Most creature cards in Elements requires tapping each turn to do something
which isn't good and fun for players whom wants to rush or have a faster gameplay.

Quote
0: Deal 2^X Damage 2 Enemy

X = Turns Since Ability Was Last Used, Up To 5.
This will looks scary to any kids trying to play Elements
and will most probably avoid this card
but i dun have a better suggestion.
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Re: Readied Sniper/Elite Sniper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57937.msg1184220#msg1184220
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2015, 02:48:21 am »
Quote
0: Deal 2^X Damage 2 Enemy

X = Turns Since Ability Was Last Used, Up To 5.
This will looks scary to any kids trying to play Elements
and will most probably avoid this card
but i dun have a better suggestion.

This.

Most creature cards in Elements requires tapping each turn to do something
which isn't good and fun for players whom wants to rush or have a faster gameplay.

What? I don't think I've ever heard anybody playing a rush deck complain about having to click every turn to do things. Is it really so hard to click on a Lava Destroyer each turn to grow? I'd imagine FFQ and Pharaoh decks must be horrifying to you then... all the clicking... :P
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