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Ravages of time | Ravages of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55462.msg1151671#msg1151671
« on: August 17, 2014, 06:44:51 pm »
NAME:
Ravages of time
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
3 :time
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Targeted permanent begins to consume quanta over time. If there's no quanta to drain, the permanent is destroyed.
NAME:
Ravages of time
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
2 :time
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Targeted permanent begins to consume quanta over time. If there's no quanta to drain, the permanent is destroyed.

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NOTES:
The target permanent begins to consume quanta matching its element, over time.

Quanta drained per turn are:

1st turn - 1 quantum
2nd turn - 2 quanta
3rd turn - 4 quanta
4th turn - 8 quanta
5th turn - 16 quanta
6th turn - 32 quanta
and so on.

Quanta are drained at the end of the turn of the owner of the targeted permanent.
SERIES:
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Re: Ravages of time | Ravages of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55462.msg1151675#msg1151675
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2014, 06:49:30 pm »
This + quanta denial decks = 0/100 thumbs up at arena.
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Re: Ravages of time | Ravages of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55462.msg1151684#msg1151684
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2014, 07:49:07 pm »
Pretty balanced, I'd say, because it's very difficult to use this card as quanta denial since it drains quanta before pillars generate quanta.

Just noting that it's very powerful in denying stall decks, or more accurately any deck that can generate and relies on generating high amounts of quanta. Though that's probably intentional.

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Re: Ravages of time | Ravages of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55462.msg1151718#msg1151718
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2014, 10:39:17 pm »
Not sure about its balance (though it seems pretty well balanced, for now) but it deserves 5/5 just for the awesome, 100% in-element idea.
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Re: Ravages of time | Ravages of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55462.msg1151727#msg1151727
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2014, 12:32:37 am »
Can i target the same permanent over once? If yes how would it affect the quanta consumption? What about the combo of EQ and this, targetting pillars? I am aware this is meant for the annoying permanents but its denial is stronger than its PC.. Hmmm, I still dont know how i feel about this, but i think i like it. Concept is of course great.

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Re: Ravages of time | Ravages of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55462.msg1151730#msg1151730
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2014, 01:04:01 am »
When the amount to drain is larger than the quanta pool, does the pool get drained and the permanent destroyed or is the permanent destroyed and the quanta left untouched? From a balance point of view I prefer the second, giving more focus to the PC part.
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Re: Ravages of time | Ravages of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55462.msg1151790#msg1151790
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2014, 01:52:25 pm »

Thanks for the feedback. This idea came to me while I was answering to trial questions (thanks to Frozengaia, his question brought me to this).

Time ago I read a journal article where there was this (silly) question: "If mankind would suddenly disappear, how long it will take until every trace of our existence is canceled?" While I was expecting an answer like "milion years", the article said that "If mankind would disappear suddenly, in "only" 100.000 years every trace of our existence (cities, roads, vehicles, infrastructure, etc...) would be canceled.

Now, even if 100.000 years seems too "short" to wipe out every single trace of mankind, it's easy to realize that everything we build, needs constant maintenance to survive over time.

This is the idea behind this card; the drain cost can be considered as the maintenance cost of a permanent.


Can i target the same permanent over once? If yes how would it affect the quanta consumption? What about the combo of EQ and this, targetting pillars? I am aware this is meant for the annoying permanents but its denial is stronger than its PC.. Hmmm, I still dont know how i feel about this, but i think i like it. Concept is of course great.

Multiple targeting shouldn't affect the permanent, at least imho. So if you play this card again on the same permanent, nothing happens. And if you target a pillar/pend, a following EQ would destroy the targeted pillar/pend too, deleting all effects of this card.


When the amount to drain is larger than the quanta pool, does the pool get drained and the permanent destroyed or is the permanent destroyed and the quanta left untouched? From a balance point of view I prefer the second, giving more focus to the PC part.

This is the main balance point i'm thinkin' about it. I'll give you an answer asap.  ;D

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Re: Ravages of time | Ravages of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55462.msg1152237#msg1152237
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2014, 01:31:52 pm »
Great card, it fits the element nicely and gives nice PC to Time.

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Re: Ravages of time | Ravages of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55462.msg1153006#msg1153006
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2014, 10:28:00 pm »
I love this card! Excellent way to fit PC into :time in a thematic manner and without outshining cards from other PC themed elements. It also adds in a method of QC in a similar manner at the same time. Very well done.


Question: Will the absorbed quanta match the permanent's element or will it be :rainbow absorb?
Its not a huge issue but it has a little balancing impact. The first option is harder on bows, the second is harder on monos and duos.

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Re: Ravages of time | Ravages of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55462.msg1153008#msg1153008
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2014, 10:36:53 pm »

Still thikin' of a fine tune/balance.

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