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Re: Qucksilver Raptor | Quicksilver Songbird https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24601.msg318359#msg318359
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2011, 06:21:39 pm »
ok scavenge is passive right?
its not mutually exclusive or anything?
Scavenger is active.
Passive abilities are the abilities that are not lobotomiseable (Exceptions: Airborne is Passive and Immaterial is another Active/Status)

Current passives:
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Poisonous
Swarm
(it is a short list which is why I suggested you create a new one)
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Re: Qucksilver Raptor | Quicksilver Songbird https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24601.msg318370#msg318370
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2011, 06:40:39 pm »
ok scavenge is passive right?
its not mutually exclusive or anything?
Scavenger is active.
Passive abilities are the abilities that are not lobotomiseable (Exceptions: Airborne is Passive and Immaterial is another Active/Status)

Current passives:
Airborne
Poisonous
Swarm
(it is a short list which is why I suggested you create a new one)
Airborne isn't lobotomizable, per se. It is removable by the active skill, Web. Mummy is also a passive skill.

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Re: Qucksilver Raptor | Quicksilver Songbird https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24601.msg318373#msg318373
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2011, 06:48:48 pm »
ok scavenge is passive right?
its not mutually exclusive or anything?
Scavenger is active.
Passive abilities are the abilities that are not lobotomiseable (Exceptions: Airborne is Passive and Immaterial is another Active/Status)

Current passives:
Airborne
Poisonous
Swarm
(it is a short list which is why I suggested you create a new one)
Airborne isn't lobotomizable, per se. It is removable by the active skill, Web. Mummy is also a passive skill.
Thanks for the addition

Current passives:
Airborne
Poisonous
Swarm
Mummy
Undead
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Re: Qucksilver Raptor | Quicksilver Songbird https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24601.msg318382#msg318382
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2011, 07:06:48 pm »
ok
active ability
active skill
passive ability
status
right
im using the wiki,
im looking for stuff that would replace 'Acquire', and things that wouldnt.
unupped is a 'ggod card' that lets you get maybe an ability in a deck that couldnt have it
upgraded should be lots of +1/+1 for the marauder without replacing acquire, i know this limits it a bit, maybe that is too strict of a design guide im imposing....

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Re: Qucksilver Raptor | Quicksilver Songbird https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24601.msg318383#msg318383
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2011, 07:07:41 pm »
Current passives:
Airborne
Poisonous
Swarm
Mummy
Undead
Obsession (Ghost of the Past) is also a passive.
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Re: Qucksilver Raptor | Quicksilver Songbird https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24601.msg318388#msg318388
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2011, 07:15:33 pm »
@ddevans96
Really? Thanks for the correction.

ok
active ability
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passive ability
status
right
im using the wiki,
im looking for stuff that would replace 'Acquire', and things that wouldnt.
unupped is a 'ggod card' that lets you get maybe an ability in a deck that couldnt have it
upgraded should be lots of +1/+1 for the marauder without replacing acquire, i know this limits it a bit, maybe that is too strict of a design guide im imposing....
I got lost in this post.

What is 'Acquire'? Did you mean Active ability?
Why are you looking through past abilities when you could just make a new one?
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Re: Qucksilver Raptor | Quicksilver Songbird https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24601.msg318392#msg318392
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2011, 07:24:05 pm »
these should pretty much use existing abilities. The Quicksilver Golem/Marauder has the Acquire Skill, it copies passive abilities and/or statuses to the golem and gives it +1/+1 for each. if the target has an Activated Ability, it replaces Acquire and the golem has that instead. So for terms of building up the golem, lots, or at least some passive abilities/statuses are good, but the active abilities that replace Acquire, are not as good for it in terms of growth, either that or they should be selected carefully almost like 'modes' for the golem. So im staying with that theme. That help?

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Re: Qucksilver Raptor | Quicksilver Songbird https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24601.msg318395#msg318395
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2011, 07:26:42 pm »
these should pretty much use existing abilities. The Quicksilver Golem/Marauder has the Acquire Skill, it copies passive abilities and/or statuses to the golem and gives it +1/+1 for each. if the target has an Activated Ability, it replaces Acquire and the golem has that instead. So for terms of building up the golem, lots, or at least some passive abilities/statuses are good, but the active abilities that replace Acquire, are not as good for it in terms of growth, either that or they should be selected carefully almost like 'modes' for the golem. So im staying with that theme. That help?
That helps with one problem.
Why should these use existing abilities? Typically reusing existing abilities is frowned on.
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Re: Qucksilver Raptor | Quicksilver Songbird https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24601.msg318400#msg318400
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2011, 07:30:15 pm »
ok, ease of implementation for one, and two, to allow new strategies. These cards are other and therefore playable in any deck.
So, you can have a creature with momentum in your Aether mono, or have a creature with Devour in a pure death deck. it might be more complex or expensive than adding pendulums or it might be a bit more streamlined, the idea is to get a few abilities, mostly ones that have been around awhile not brand new ones like overdrive or obsession, but dive and scavenge and such spread around a bit to spur some ideas and tactics.

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Re: Qucksilver Raptor | Quicksilver Raven https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24601.msg318404#msg318404
« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2011, 07:38:53 pm »
Given those limitations:
 :air Airborne
 :life Poisonous (would require a different bird name but some are poisonous)
 :death Scavenger
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Re: Qucksilver Raptor | Quicksilver Raven https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24601.msg318408#msg318408
« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2011, 07:43:49 pm »
put scavenger on the raven, not quite but maybe it covers death and darkness, i think as long as its close it should be ok, i have poison on the viper.

 

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