*Author

Kartsa

  • Guest
Quantum Soldier | Quantum Warrior https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21218.msg271074#msg271074
« on: February 15, 2011, 02:09:52 am »
NAME:
Quantum Soldier
ELEMENT:
:rainbow
COST:
2
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2|1
TEXT:
NAME:
Quantum Warrior
ELEMENT:
:rainbow
COST:
4
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4/3
TEXT:
ART:
Kartsa
IDEA:
Kartsa
NOTES:
The lowest rank grunt equivalent for non coloured. While it is more expensive than other "lv1" grunts, it is still relatively cheaper, since Quantum Pillars produce 3 Quanta per turn.
Art is just a mock up to give a reference of Quanta Spirit wielding armour and weapons.
SERIES:

Offline Onizuka

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2292
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 0
  • Onizuka hides under a Cloak.
  • Donuts!
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 5th Birthday Cake1st Person to Escape the TempleSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeChampionship League 2/2012 2nd PlaceWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday CakeWinner of the Harry Potter PvP House Cup - HoH5th Trials - Master of EntropyWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 2nd Birthday Cake
Re: Quantum Soldier | Quantum Warrior https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21218.msg271076#msg271076
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2011, 02:18:21 am »
I honestly don't think Other should have a monster.
A shield is already pushing it for me.
You're just as selfish as I am. You're just not as good at it yet.

Kartsa

  • Guest
Re: Quantum Soldier | Quantum Warrior https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21218.msg271254#msg271254
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2011, 12:39:53 pm »
Why should not there be? There is already the unupped Photon, which is pretty much other already as it cotsts 0. However, what makes Photon to light, is it's upped version Ray of Light that produses :light, but still costs 0 (not to speak of Spark/Ball lightning).

My point being, there are cards that are so close of true other class, but with a little twist, so that they can be put in that some other element instead.

The idea of other henceforth is that there should be something of all and nothing in it, the rainbow. Colourless and all-coloured at the same time. Having the benefits and hindrances of all, or none. Or then have own system altogether based on Quantum Pillars/Towers.

Offline OldTrees

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 10297
  • Reputation Power: 114
  • OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • I was available for questions.
  • Awards: Brawl #2 Winner - Team FireTeam Card Design Winner
Re: Quantum Soldier | Quantum Warrior https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21218.msg271281#msg271281
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2011, 02:33:52 pm »
Compare:
Quantum Pillar + 3 Quantum Soldiers vs Fire Pillar + 3 Ash Eaters
"It is common sense to listen to the wisdom of the wise. The wise are marked by their readiness to listen to the wisdom of the fool."
"Nothing exists that cannot be countered." -OldTrees on indirect counters
Ask the Idea Guru: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32272.0.htm

Offline Bieber4Ever98

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 381
  • Reputation Power: 5
  • Bieber4Ever98 is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • I'm interested in this game.
Re: Quantum Soldier | Quantum Warrior https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21218.msg271342#msg271342
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2011, 05:51:23 pm »
Welcome to suggestion forum.  :)

Pretty good idea for your first suggestion. You are trying to reach something simple that already does'nt exist in Elements.

My suggestion would be to give it some some unique ability that fits with Other element.

Otherwise, it would be obviously underpowered with the current cost. So, i think you could buff it's attack and hp by a lot.

My real-life sucks. So i come online to compensate that.

Offline OldTrees

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 10297
  • Reputation Power: 114
  • OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • I was available for questions.
  • Awards: Brawl #2 Winner - Team FireTeam Card Design Winner
Re: Quantum Soldier | Quantum Warrior https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21218.msg271380#msg271380
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2011, 07:00:04 pm »
To make my previous argument clearer since Nik_V misunderstood it.

3 Quantum Soldiers & 1 Quantum Pillar
Turn 1: Quantum Pillar
Turn 2: 1 Quantum Soldier
Turn 3: +2[total 3] Quantum Soldiers
Turn 4: nothing (well more cards obviously)
Total Cost: 6 :rainbow

3 Ash Eaters & 1 Fire Pillar

Turn 1: Fire Pillar
Turn 2: 1 Ash Eater
Turn 3: 1[total 2] Ash Eater
Turn 4: 1[total 3] Ash Eater
Total Cost: 3 :fire

Cost Comparison:
6 :rainbow vs 3 :fire
Resource/Damage Advantage:
3 :rainbow & 14 damage vs 12 damage over 4 turns

This card as it stands is more powerful than Ash Eater. Are other cards supposed to be more powerful than their elemental counterparts?
"It is common sense to listen to the wisdom of the wise. The wise are marked by their readiness to listen to the wisdom of the fool."
"Nothing exists that cannot be countered." -OldTrees on indirect counters
Ask the Idea Guru: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32272.0.htm

Kartsa

  • Guest
Re: Quantum Soldier | Quantum Warrior https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21218.msg271514#msg271514
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2011, 11:16:17 pm »
Perhaps they then would be more balanced as 1|2 and 3|4.

I tought that perhaps the creatures of later stages should have abilities called "Change Stance 2 :rainbow(?): swap attack and health". This would allow them to stay a tad longer on the field when poisoned, with reduced attack however. Or if charmed by basilisk blood, can make the use of it, and so on.

Still, maybe it is too much for the lowest rank creature to have.

Offline OldTrees

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 10297
  • Reputation Power: 114
  • OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • I was available for questions.
  • Awards: Brawl #2 Winner - Team FireTeam Card Design Winner
Re: Quantum Soldier | Quantum Warrior https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21218.msg271548#msg271548
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2011, 11:51:22 pm »
Perhaps they then would be more balanced as 1|2 and 3|4.

I tought that perhaps the creatures of later stages should have abilities called "Change Stance 2 :rainbow(?): swap attack and health". This would allow them to stay a tad longer on the field when poisoned, with reduced attack however. Or if charmed by basilisk blood, can make the use of it, and so on.

Still, maybe it is too much for the lowest rank creature to have.
1|2 and 3|4 would be balanced.

Change Stance has been suggested before and was noted to be very troubling. I would suggest not trying this unless you are confident in your card making abilities.
"It is common sense to listen to the wisdom of the wise. The wise are marked by their readiness to listen to the wisdom of the fool."
"Nothing exists that cannot be countered." -OldTrees on indirect counters
Ask the Idea Guru: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32272.0.htm

Re: Quantum Soldier | Quantum Warrior https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21218.msg271555#msg271555
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2011, 12:06:38 am »
To be like the "Other" weapons it could have a reduced attack, and the ability could be "Do one extra damage if your mark is _____" (not sure which element would work best here, preferably not  :air  :earth  :gravity or  :darkness because they already have a good synergy with an other card)  :P

Kartsa

  • Guest
Re: Quantum Soldier | Quantum Warrior https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21218.msg272161#msg272161
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2011, 10:31:06 pm »
If the Quantum Soldier/Warrior would have bonus to a certain element, it would lose the neutralness of the lowest grunt of "other" creature, and in principle would have to be put in that said element then.

They could have some sort of skill that would cost :rainbow, or maybe the upped creature could produce  :rainbow :rainbow or something instead of stat increase. It would have to go trough a name change (the upgrade) then, tho.

Re: Quantum Soldier | Quantum Warrior https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21218.msg272196#msg272196
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2011, 10:56:43 pm »
If the Quantum Soldier/Warrior would have bonus to a certain element, it would lose the neutralness of the lowest grunt of "other" creature, and in principle would have to be put in that said element then.

They could have some sort of skill that would cost :rainbow, or maybe the upped creature could produce  :rainbow :rainbow or something instead of stat increase. It would have to go trough a name change (the upgrade) then, tho.
But the majority of the other Other weapons already have bonus's to certain elements. I think it would be good if there could be one Other card for every element  :)

Kartsa

  • Guest
Re: Quantum Soldier | Quantum Warrior https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21218.msg272844#msg272844
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2011, 10:49:57 pm »
ah, but htat's where you miss the very point. It is not a weapon, it is a creature. And Dagger nor Short Sword neither have affinity for anything, as they are lower class weapons, costing less.

 

blarg: