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Pythios l Pythios (upgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19910.msg252340#msg252340
« on: January 20, 2011, 03:48:21 am »
NAME:
Pythios
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
6
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
6/4
TEXT:
Adaptation: Creature is immune to spells that damage it
NAME:
Pythios
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
6
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
8/4
TEXT:
Adaptation: Creature is immune to spells that damage it
ART:
piepieple
IDEA:
piepieple
NOTES:
drawing made in geography class, edits at home.
SERIES:
heh, i wish :S
If you don't understand the skill, it means that spells that inflict damage (firebolt, lightning etc.) will not do anything, but spells like: parallel universe, reverse time or blessing, will still affect it.

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Re: Pythios l Pythios (upgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19910.msg252361#msg252361
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2011, 04:23:28 am »
Neat Idea.
New name for an older ability (but on a different vehicle).

Questions:
1) Is this ability able to be Lobotomized?
2) Is it also immune to abilities like snipe?
3) Does it count infection like from Plague?
Comments:
1) It is OP by 1-2|1-3 quanta. See my sig for help on the details.
2) Good art.
3) Nice choice for stats.

To everyone:
How much is this partial protection worth?
+50% is my standard for full protection.
+40%?
+30%?
+20%?
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Re: Pythios l Pythios (upgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19910.msg252521#msg252521
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2011, 01:12:35 pm »
I guess it's impervious to mass CC too, right?

Cool artwork.

And OT, I say 30%. Should be a bit less costly than immortal creatures, although not by much.

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Re: Pythios l Pythios (upgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19910.msg252896#msg252896
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2011, 11:32:13 pm »
Neat Idea.
New name for an older ability (but on a different vehicle).

Questions:
1) Is this ability able to be Lobotomized?
2) Is it also immune to abilities like snipe?
3) Does it count infection like from Plague?
Comments:
1) It is OP by 1-2|1-3 quanta. See my sig for help on the details.
2) Good art.
3) Nice choice for stats.
Answers:
1. Yes
2. That is debatable since it its a damaging skill, but I'd say no since its like shooting a rabbit with a shotgun, would it die if you got it in the head?
3.The card itself, yes, but from virus/retrovirus, that can be debatable

and thanks for the feedback, ill change the stats soon, how does 8 cost unupped and 9 when upped sound?
   

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Re: Pythios l Pythios (upgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19910.msg252899#msg252899
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2011, 11:37:46 pm »
Great Card! Good choice of cost increase (you caught on pretty quickly! :) ), and welcome to CI&A!

I don't think this card should be immune to poison or ability damage, taking your argument from before, if a rabbit ate poisoned food, it would die too. If this card was made completley immune to all damage, then Gravity Pull, Antimatter, Lobotomize, and Paradox would be the only ways to counter it.

Otherwise, great idea with great art.  The cost increase should balance it out well.

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Re: Pythios l Pythios (upgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19910.msg252900#msg252900
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2011, 11:38:48 pm »
unuped is fine, uped... maybe one less attack?

@zblader-reverse time, fire and thorn shield

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Re: Pythios l Pythios (upgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19910.msg252903#msg252903
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2011, 11:42:10 pm »
unuped is fine, uped... maybe one less attack?

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Don't fire shield and thorn caparace count as poison and damage? If the card immune to all damage and poison, then neither of these would work.

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Re: Pythios l Pythios (upgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19910.msg252905#msg252905
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2011, 11:45:35 pm »
@Zblader, skills from virus, retrovirus, and other skills that cause poison, such as thorn will deal damage since it is a DoT and takes time to start up (1 turn :o), but fire shield deals damage instantly, so that probably wont work scratch that, not thinking clearly today .-.

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Re: Pythios l Pythios (upgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19910.msg252906#msg252906
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2011, 11:46:22 pm »
unuped is fine, uped... maybe one less attack?

@zblader-reverse time, fire and thorn shield
Don't fire shield and thorn caparace count as poison and damage? If the card immune to all damage and poison, then neither of these would work.
This is only immune to damage and poison spells
Fire Bolt
Firestorm
Rage Potion
Ice Bolt
Drain Life
Plague
Thunderstorm
Lightning

8|9 cost is good for now. It will probably drop to 7|8
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