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Temptress | Seductress https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6184.msg63437#msg63437
« on: May 04, 2010, 06:15:02 pm »
NAME:
Temptress
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
6
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3/2
ABILITY:
:darkness :darkness :darkness: Kiss
Does two damage to target creature and Temptress gains +1 / 0
ART BY:
IDEA BY:
kevkev60614
NAME:
Seductress
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
6
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3/2
ABILITY:
:darkness :darkness: Kiss
Does two damage to target creature and Seductress gains +1 / 0
ART BY:
IDEA BY:
kevkev60614
NOTES: [/color][/b]
SERIES: [/color][/b]
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Re: Succubus | Elite Succubus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6184.msg63444#msg63444
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2010, 06:24:59 pm »
A card that destroys any targetable creature for the price of Black Nymph's \ Dark Nymph's Liquid Shadow, I don't think so. The ability has to go, a card that kills any creature in one shot has been talked of as a no-no, and the Freeze + Shockwave combo has been deemed OK.

That being said, this card has to have a different ability or at least one that takes more effort, especially if the ability is as simple to be activated with some Pests here and there.

Maybe the ability could be:

 :darkness :darkness: Kiss
Alter target creature's stats by -1|0 and alter Succubus' \ Elite Succubus' stats by +1|0.
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Re: Succubus | Elite Succubus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6184.msg63451#msg63451
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2010, 06:28:57 pm »
Also, you can compare this to eagle eye, which only does 3 damage for 2  :air with no gain in attack. + it is a weapon (can only have one).
Stole my name as well  >:D

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Re: Succubus | Elite Succubus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6184.msg63455#msg63455
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2010, 06:37:37 pm »
Assassim, though it could be considered the stealing of a name, it is fairly generic, and since they have to go through the entire 3 leveled Crucible-Forge-Armory system, the card that is best will ultimately win.

Have faith in your card, as I know you should, and most importantly faith in your ideas. Not to mention that you have a certain reputation which will not be looked aside.
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Re: Succubus | Elite Succubus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6184.msg63461#msg63461
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2010, 06:42:50 pm »
Stole my name as well  >:D
That's absolutely my bad.  I don't spend any time in Card Ideas and should've searched before I named my card.  In fact yours is RIGHT THERE in the submission thread; I dunno how I missed it.

I'll change my card's name, and it looks like I have some work to do before I submit anyway.

Edit: Changed the name and changed the creature as well.  Took Hyroen's kiss idea.  Thanks for the feedback, gentlemen.

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Re: Succubus | Elite Succubus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6184.msg63593#msg63593
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2010, 11:48:20 pm »
Assassim, though it could be considered the stealing of a name, it is fairly generic, and since they have to go through the entire 3 leveled Crucible-Forge-Armory system, the card that is best will ultimately win.

Have faith in your card, as I know you should, and most importantly faith in your ideas. Not to mention that you have a certain reputation which will not be looked aside.
Ugh I sounded waay too serious in that thread. :P To tell you the truth the name does not matter much at all, that and like 5 other entrys used warp/wormhole

Oh and this card is a LOT better now (with the ability).

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Re: Succubus | Elite Succubus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6184.msg63644#msg63644
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2010, 01:38:37 am »
Also, you can compare this to eagle eye, which only does 3 damage for 2  :air with no gain in attack. + it is a weapon (can only have one).
Stole my name as well  >:D
but its a weapon which deals more dmg/turn (upgraded then 7!), more decks have more creature control than permanent control and it just uses one type of quantum, this way you need much fire and much darkness, thats not the best combo in my opinion (both have good permanent control, but their creature control spells/dmg spells prefer a mono-deck or are expensive (like rain of fire), so i think it could be a nice addition and interesting for duo-deck ideas.

btw, for example fire nymph is also a "sniper" and can be used in mono-red-decks, where fire bolts and fahrenheits make sense, so the pumping-effect sounds great, although i would prefer same ability cost but upgraded +2/+0.

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Re: Temptress | Seductress https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6184.msg63664#msg63664
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2010, 03:25:51 am »
The fact that it can be killed in multiple ways (A rain of Fire, Thunderbolt, Otyughs, Maxwell Demon's, or even after two rounds of dealing with a fire shield), makes me think that this card is nice, but overly vulnerable (akin to the Fire Spirit). The 'Kiss' ability is cute, but that doesn't make sense to me as to why it should reduce a creature's attack... =|

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Re: Temptress | Seductress https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6184.msg63697#msg63697
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2010, 06:00:50 am »
I thought that would be more obvious than the fact that it increases its attack, the creature is tempted or seduced by the enemy and thus calmed, perhaps lowered in defenses.

And another thing to keep in mind, the ability Kiss that kevkev60614 used is not the original Hyroen Kiss, it deals 2 damage to the target and increases its attack by 1.

I am wondering now if a Kiss would truly be so harmful to a creature's life? But what do I know, this is the Elements Realm.
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