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Aphrodite's Harp | Aphrodite's Harp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49408.msg1073109#msg1073109
« on: May 22, 2013, 07:16:02 am »
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Just part of a series of love element cards.

Like Lobotomizer except you trade some damage for some cc.
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Re: Aphrodite's Harp | Aphrodite's Harp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49408.msg1073347#msg1073347
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2013, 01:30:11 am »
I can't see the picture. And the card text is nothing.

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Re: Aphrodite's Harp | Aphrodite's Harp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49408.msg1073416#msg1073416
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2013, 05:52:44 am »
Sorry, I should have just deleted this post.  My bad.  It was a weapon that did no damage (as you might expect from a harp).  However, you could pay 2L to strip a creature of it's ability and give it, "Creature can't attack unless you pay 1".

The upgraded one increased it to paying 2.

So, not only do you get a lobotomy effect, you get some quanta drain/control.  On the flip side you lose out on weapon damage.

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Re: Aphrodite's Harp | Aphrodite's Harp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49408.msg1073556#msg1073556
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2013, 06:01:09 pm »


Just can't get the image builder to work correctly today.  I've had this problem before and it went away eventually.
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Re: Aphrodite's Harp | Aphrodite's Harp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49408.msg1073593#msg1073593
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2013, 08:52:10 pm »
Ramp up the cost. 5|8 or so (After all, 2 is twice as much as 1)

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Re: Aphrodite's Harp | Aphrodite's Harp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49408.msg1073597#msg1073597
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2013, 08:58:46 pm »
I wonder how much atk/health an animated Harp should have?

How about 5/6 for cost?  8 seems a bit steep to me. 

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Re: Aphrodite's Harp | Aphrodite's Harp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49408.msg1073605#msg1073605
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2013, 09:40:12 pm »
It's fine. Let me put it this way: If crimson dragon had 24 attack when upped, you would pretty much double the cost right? Well picture this. Every turn, you basically add a devourer while not gaining quanta, and also lobotomizing the opponent. (Which is worth about the same, so let's say those cancel out.)

A devourer is 2 :darkness.

To use the ability, you need 2 love quanta, which for the purpose of this argument is equivalent to 2 :underworld

Normally, with cards like firefly and scarab, generating multiple isn't a massive problem. However, with devourer, you will make your opponent lose 1, then 2, then 3, then before long he is quanta locked and can't play anything unless he wants to stop all of his own creatures. The fact that he has a choice balances it somewhat, so I figure that you can drop the cost a bit from Firefly Queen and Pharaoh. (It's also a weapon, and weapons cost less than creatures of the same power level.)

So now picture this: Your opponent loses 2, then 4, then he's already draw locked by turn 3 or 4. Maybe if the opponent has a crazy insane rush deck with 20 pillars, it might take 5 turns.

If you used the unupped, it would take 10 turns. Pretty big difference.

Cost bump to 8. That or nothing at all.
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Re: Aphrodite's Harp | Aphrodite's Harp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49408.msg1073607#msg1073607
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2013, 09:46:34 pm »
How do you decide that 2 is equivalent to 1 :underworld ? I would estimate that is worth at least as much as :underworld .

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Re: Aphrodite's Harp | Aphrodite's Harp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49408.msg1073609#msg1073609
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2013, 09:49:28 pm »
Well, there are all ready some mechanics out there to generate love quanta.  I intend for my purposes that there will be love pillars/towers just like any other quanta.

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Re: Aphrodite's Harp | Aphrodite's Harp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49408.msg1073612#msg1073612
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2013, 09:56:58 pm »
How do you decide that 2 is equivalent to 1 :underworld ? I would estimate that is worth at least as much as :underworld .

I meant that as separate sentences. "It costs two love quanta" and "Love quanta is worth about 1 :underworld

 

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