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Bounty | Bounty https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45112.msg1022011#msg1022011
« on: December 13, 2012, 09:56:13 pm »
NAME:
Bounty
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
3 :death
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
When target creature is killed, gain quanta equal to half its cost.
NAME:
Bounty
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
5 :death
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
When target creature is killed, gain quanta equal to its cost.

ART:

IDEA:
Drake_XIV
NOTES:
Places an :electrum mark on the upper right hand corner of the card.

Trying to balance it in respect to Immolation | Cremation.

Odd costs round up when halved.

Dead or Alive will trigger Bounty and keep Bounty on the Cat.
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Re: Bounty | Bounty https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45112.msg1022026#msg1022026
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2012, 10:29:32 pm »
I don't know, but afair this idea is really old and has already been designed...
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Re: Bounty | Bounty https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45112.msg1022030#msg1022030
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2012, 10:33:07 pm »
It probably has.  This was more to resurface the concept, exercise card balance, and see what I can add to it.

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Re: Bounty | Bounty https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45112.msg1022053#msg1022053
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2012, 11:25:26 pm »
Seems overpriced currently, since the average creature costs less than 5 :underworld ... At best you just end up with a situational quanta converter.
Defensively, it would probably need to be nearly free to make it worthwhile... offensively its a little trickier to balance but my gut says the cost needs to be quite low to make it viable.

The 2 problems I see.

1) Defensively: At best (with a cost of zero) it just recoups your lost quanta... unfortunately, you give up further card advantage to do so. Anything other than a zero cast cost makes this more or less pointless to use. Even then, card advantage is often quite precious.

2) Offensively, it has some potential, but outside of rainbow decks will be highly situational due to the relatively low probability that the opponent is using cards that would provide useful quanta to you. See Mental Bridge|Soul Link for a discussion that is fairly relevant to this issue

Now, as a permanent or creature ability this effect is a little more useful. The key is that you don't have to give up card advantage then. With a slightly lower cost, it becomes very useful defensively.
Offensively, you still need to deal with making sure that the returned quanta is useful (again, see above link for some relevant discussion)
« Last Edit: December 13, 2012, 11:30:17 pm by OdinVanguard »
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Re: Bounty | Bounty https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45112.msg1022059#msg1022059
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2012, 11:30:32 pm »
Well, I don't want it to be so cheap that it can be abused with Nova/Immo...

Hm...

 

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