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Polar Swap | Polar Exchange https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15230.msg194596#msg194596
« on: November 06, 2010, 02:16:42 am »
NAME:
Polar Swap
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
:gravity
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Swap one of your permanents with one of your opponent's permanents.
NAME:
Polar Exchange
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
:gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
:gravity :gravity: Swap one of your permanents with one of your opponent's permanents.
ART:
Kamietsu
IDEA:
Kamietsu
NOTES:
Pretty self explanatory. Ask questions if you have them.
SERIES:
Polar Series

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Re: Polar Swap | Polar Exchange https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15230.msg194602#msg194602
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2010, 02:20:34 am »
It goes from hand to field?

Holy jeebus!

Play photon.  Play this.  Swap for titan.  GP.  Laugh.

Or better yet, get out fire dragons /even faster/.  If fractal wasn't broken before, it is now.


...unless by permanent you mean non-creature permanent.  In that case it seems pretty UP.  Does that mean you can get weapons outside your weapon slot?

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Re: Polar Swap | Polar Exchange https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15230.msg194621#msg194621
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2010, 02:33:57 am »
It goes from hand to field?

Holy jeebus!

Play photon.  Play this.  Swap for titan.  GP.  Laugh.

Or better yet, get out fire dragons /even faster/.  If fractal wasn't broken before, it is now.


...unless by permanent you mean non-creature permanent.  In that case it seems pretty UP.  Does that mean you can get weapons outside your weapon slot?
You keep asking stuff which goes against what the text normally applies to in elements, when does it use the name permanent to mean a creature?

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Re: Polar Swap | Polar Exchange https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15230.msg194623#msg194623
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2010, 02:38:05 am »
Creatures are permanents....

That's just well known CCG terminology.

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Re: Polar Swap | Polar Exchange https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15230.msg194634#msg194634
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2010, 02:45:36 am »
No Gl1tch, you are completely wrong in this case. Creatures are not permanents, creatures are creatures. Permanents are whatever aren't creatures and aren't spells.

The unupgraded cards has you target two permanents, one of your own, and one of your opponents.
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Re: Polar Swap | Polar Exchange https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15230.msg194897#msg194897
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2010, 12:21:32 pm »
Sure makes use of extra quanta tower draws when playing against ferox ;)

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Re: Polar Swap | Polar Exchange https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15230.msg194959#msg194959
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2010, 01:55:42 pm »
Creatures are permanents....

That's just well known CCG terminology.
Creatures are creatures.  Permanents are permanents.

No creature has the permanent symbol, nor can they be targeted by things like explosion.

Permanents have the little symbol like a pillar in the corner.  Creatures do not.  They have different places where they go on the board.  Creatures are nothing like permanents...

As for the card, seems very interesting.

It won't always be positive, but that just makes it more interesting.  It doesn't seem too strong, but it could add a lot to the game.  I like it.

Re: Polar Swap | Polar Exchange https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15230.msg194994#msg194994
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2010, 02:29:10 pm »
Its kind of hard to use this card, considering there is already a card called deflag that seems kind of better than it...
By the way, you shouldn't be targeting 2 things when playing a spell, just like all other cards in the game.

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Re: Polar Swap | Polar Exchange https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15230.msg195013#msg195013
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2010, 02:55:00 pm »
Creatures are permanents....

That's just well known CCG terminology.
Creatures are creatures.  Permanents are permanents.

No creature has the permanent symbol, nor can they be targeted by things like explosion.

Permanents have the little symbol like a pillar in the corner.  Creatures do not.  They have different places where they go on the board.  Creatures are nothing like permanents...

As for the card, seems very interesting.

It won't always be positive, but that just makes it more interesting.  It doesn't seem too strong, but it could add a lot to the game.  I like it.
The term "permanent" in /several/ CCGs means card that stays on the field for more than one turn.  Sometimes when I see the cost 2 :life I think of two colorless and one life, and sometimes when I see "permanent", I assume creatures are included.  But thanks for treating me like I'm 8.

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Re: Polar Swap | Polar Exchange https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15230.msg195029#msg195029
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2010, 03:25:46 pm »
Don't you think guys it's much better to start a debate about what is and what should be in another post just to keep this one clear for the card theme? it's just an opinion, don't hunt me now :P

I like the card. I can't avoid to compare it with steal and I don't see it's OP in comparision. Maybe I would rise the upped card's cost to 4 or 5.

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Re: Polar Swap | Polar Exchange https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15230.msg195036#msg195036
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2010, 03:32:57 pm »
I think it would be good to start a poll.
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Re: Polar Swap | Polar Exchange https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15230.msg195040#msg195040
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2010, 03:36:03 pm »
I think it would be good to start a poll.
For what?

As for the costs, I'd agree with Drobbit. Definitely make the upped cost 5 :gravity.

 

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