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What should be changed about this card?

Needs a buff
4 (28.6%)
Don't make it a hybrid
7 (50%)
Keep as is
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Other (Please state in post)
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Poison Bow | Poison Bow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59703.msg1207237#msg1207237
« on: September 26, 2015, 09:10:48 pm »
NAME:
Poison Bow
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
6 :death
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:death :death  Weapon: Deal 3 damage to target creature and one poison damage.
NAME:
Poison Bow
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
5 :death
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:death :death Weapon: Deal 3 damage to target creature and one poison damage.

ART:
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IDEA:
Discord
NOTES:

SERIES:

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NAME:
Posion Bow
ELEMENT:
Skyrask
COST:
6
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Weapon : Target creature gains -0 | -2 and one poison damage.
NAME:
Poison Bow
ELEMENT:
Skyrask
COST:
5
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Weapon : Target creature gains -0 | -2 and one poison damage.

ART:

IDEA:
Discord
NOTES:

SERIES:

« Last Edit: September 27, 2015, 03:19:36 pm by Discord »
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Re: Poison Bow | Poison Bow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59703.msg1207245#msg1207245
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2015, 10:38:00 pm »
Needs a buff.

Owl's Eye is cheaper unupped, and deals 5|7 damage while this seems not to attack at all.
The ability being a bit cheaper is pro, but on the contra side, dealing 2 damage and 1 poison instead of 3 damage only helps against large HP creatures.

All in all, nice idea, thematic is fine with both Air and Death, just needs to be buffed. Try to make it as different as possible to Owl's Eye. This doesn't neccessarily has to be a weapon.
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Re: Poison Bow | Poison Bow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59703.msg1207247#msg1207247
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2015, 11:07:29 pm »
Poll options should allow multiple answers if there are some that can occur at the same time (example being  this, only one vote poll would be like "raise cost by 1, raise by 2, by 3, etc.)

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Re: Poison Bow | Poison Bow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59703.msg1207250#msg1207250
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2015, 11:26:18 pm »
Poison is not an Air effect(to my knowledge), thus Hybrid is not the correct cost system (otherwise it would have been an option since -hp is a Death effect and an Air effect). Duo or Mono Death would work.
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Re: Poison Bow | Poison Bow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59703.msg1207251#msg1207251
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2015, 11:30:24 pm »
Poison is not an Air effect(to my knowledge), thus Hybrid is not the correct cost system (otherwise it would have been an option since -hp is a Death effect and an Air effect). Duo or Mono Death would work.


but yea, a mono death might be good for this card

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Re: Poison Bow | Poison Bow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59703.msg1207253#msg1207253
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2015, 11:35:12 pm »
I personally dislike direct CC as this as in-element with Bone Wall.
I am not used to this hybrid stuff, but Air casting cost and Death ability cost might work well.
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Re: Poison Bow | Poison Bow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59703.msg1207260#msg1207260
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2015, 01:23:46 am »
As it is right now I wouldn't say it needs a buff because it is playable in mono - :death (makes bonebolt quite stronger)
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Re: Poison Bow | Poison Bow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59703.msg1207261#msg1207261
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2015, 01:43:54 am »
Good first attempt for a hybrid, but I agree that :air doesn't normally get Poison under these circumstances. To avoid redundancy with OE I think this would be better off as monodeath or :darkness / :death if concerns about it in bonebolt are valid enough.

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Re: Poison Bow | Poison Bow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59703.msg1207262#msg1207262
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2015, 01:53:33 am »
Poison is not an Air effect(to my knowledge), thus Hybrid is not the correct cost system (otherwise it would have been an option since -hp is a Death effect and an Air effect). Duo or Mono Death would work.


but yea, a mono death might be good for this card
I stand corrected. Thanks you. It could work as a hybrid which means it could also work as either mono Air or mono Death.
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Re: Poison Bow | Poison Bow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59703.msg1207274#msg1207274
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2015, 04:43:42 am »
Have you considered making this weapon targetable to players as well? Like, it'll deal 2 damage to the player + add 1 poison damage like Arsenic? To make it different than Arsenic and not overshadow it, however, to cast it on a player you should require 1  :death and 1  :air each. That way, a mono Air cannot just get an Eagle's Eye/Arsenic on a stick. Also, what would the weapon's stats be when flown?

Weapon : Deals 2 damage and 1 poison counter to target creature.  :death :air: Deals 2 damage and 1 poison counter to target player.
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Re: Poison Bow | Poison Bow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59703.msg1207281#msg1207281
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2015, 06:23:01 am »
Your poll should probably be multi-choice; I voted it needs a buff, because I think as a weapon it needs to do some damage, but I might have also voted "don't make it a hybrid" simply coz I don't like hybrids haha.

However, the idea of mixing Arsenic and Owl's Eye like this is pretty awesome. And turning it into a duo would probably produce sucky nerfed Owl's Eye.

It makes me think that this would be far more useful as a solid :death card though, since it's not much different to Owl's Eye in terms of it's CC ability, while death could obviously gains a lot from hard CC.

*Edit* Thematically, I think it's great that Air can poison its arrows, but doing so without :death would be weird (as hybrid would allow you to do)
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Re: Poison Bow | Poison Bow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59703.msg1207340#msg1207340
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