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Re: Readied Sniper/Elite Sniper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57937.msg1184221#msg1184221
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2015, 02:50:57 am »
Just X damage would be strong enough
Huh? Just 1*X damage or any C*X damage would give no incentive to not spam the ability (excluding corner cases like healing). To give an incentive to wait the damage acceleration(2nd derivative) needs to be positive.

Well thanks for answering a question for me. And you hit spot on why I didn't just do x damage. with x damage it wouldn't matter how fast/slow you used it you would get same damage output straight out. Putting the damage to the X power, causes it to do more damage if you wait and fire 1 shot, instead of rapidly shooting.

I would note that many functions have a positive acceleration. Exponential growth and Polynomial growth being main examples. Why 2X|3X? (Question is deceptively simple)

At unupped 2x can deal more max damage, allowing for those who want to otk a easier way. While for higher damage total 3x but with a smaller maximum will make it do more damage overall, though still less per hit.

The question was deceptively simple. Of the family of equations Y=a(x^b)(c^x), why (a,b,c) (1,0,2)|(1,0,3)? Was it a random choice or did it have thought/a reason behind it?

Haveing 0|1 is as its an archer pulling back the string to fire. The 0 cost, it doesn't take to pull back the string. and the 2 was orginal idea, and 3 was because of balance.
So in conclusion, you chose 2X randomly and did not take this opportunity to examine it further against the various alternatives (X2, X3, 2X/X2, ...).

"Because of balance" means nothing when the examination is so shallow.
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Re: Readied Sniper/Elite Sniper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57937.msg1184222#msg1184222
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2015, 02:52:53 am »
Just X damage would be strong enough
Huh? Just 1*X damage or any C*X damage would give no incentive to not spam the ability (excluding corner cases like healing). To give an incentive to wait the damage acceleration(2nd derivative) needs to be positive.

Well thanks for answering a question for me. And you hit spot on why I didn't just do x damage. with x damage it wouldn't matter how fast/slow you used it you would get same damage output straight out. Putting the damage to the X power, causes it to do more damage if you wait and fire 1 shot, instead of rapidly shooting.

I would note that many functions have a positive acceleration. Exponential growth and Polynomial growth being main examples. Why 2X|3X? (Question is deceptively simple)

At unupped 2x can deal more max damage, allowing for those who want to otk a easier way. While for higher damage total 3x but with a smaller maximum will make it do more damage overall, though still less per hit.

The question was deceptively simple. Of the family of equations Y=a(x^b)(c^x), why (a,b,c) (1,0,2)|(1,0,3)? Was it a random choice or did it have thought/a reason behind it?

Haveing 0|1 is as its an archer pulling back the string to fire. The 0 cost, it doesn't take to pull back the string. and the 2 was orginal idea, and 3 was because of balance.
So in conclusion, you chose 2X randomly and did not take this opportunity to examine it further against the various alternatives (X2, X3, 2X/X2, ...).

Ok well let me rephrase, I chose 2 after examining other options involving 2 such as X2 however having it start with 1 damage, then go to 4, then 9,  caused to to be overshadowed by UG in Damage Per Hit
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Re: Readied Sniper/Elite Sniper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57937.msg1184226#msg1184226
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2015, 03:01:42 am »
To avoid using a ^ I'd have frased it as:

0: Deal X damage (reset X to 1)

X starts at 1 and doubles when the skill is not used (up to 32)

similar (with 27 and triples) for the upped
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Re: Readied Sniper/Elite Sniper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57937.msg1184419#msg1184419
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2015, 08:07:01 am »
To avoid using a ^ I'd have frased it as:

0: Deal X damage (reset X to 1)

X starts at 1 and doubles when the skill is not used (up to 32)

similar (with 27 and triples) for the upped

Wouldn't that take up just as much space?
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Re: Readied Sniper/Elite Sniper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57937.msg1184453#msg1184453
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2015, 12:05:31 pm »
To avoid using a ^ I'd have frased it as:

0: Deal X damage (reset X to 1)

X starts at 1 and doubles when the skill is not used (up to 32)

similar (with 27 and triples) for the upped

Wouldn't that take up just as much space?

the point is that there are people that don't know what 2^X and 3^X means.
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Re: Readied Sniper/Elite Sniper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57937.msg1184458#msg1184458
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2015, 12:48:41 pm »
To avoid using a ^ I'd have frased it as:

0: Deal X damage (reset X to 1)

X starts at 1 and doubles when the skill is not used (up to 32)

similar (with 27 and triples) for the upped

Wouldn't that take up just as much space?

the point is that there are people that don't know what 2^X and 3^X means.

oh ok
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Re: Readied Sniper/Elite Sniper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57937.msg1184763#msg1184763
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2015, 02:03:19 am »
I really like the card idea. Right now I think its a little too vulnerable, and could use a change to 0/2 or maybe 0/3. I also think that the card text is fine as is, and would make it more confusing to read if you changed it. If someone doesn't know what 2^x means, they probably shouldn't be playing this game.
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Re: Readied Sniper/Elite Sniper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57937.msg1185003#msg1185003
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2015, 01:19:03 pm »
I really like the card idea. Right now I think its a little too vulnerable, and could use a change to 0/2 or maybe 0/3. I also think that the card text is fine as is, and would make it more confusing to read if you changed it. If someone doesn't know what 2^x means, they probably shouldn't be playing this game.

its meant to die easily, so that you can just put it out for your otk, and have to have saved up to also put down cloak so it doesn't die instantly. That way there is time for even the cheapest of cc before this becomes unstoppable damage.
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