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Re: Platinum Staff | Electrum Staff https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41172.msg509957#msg509957
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2012, 02:35:03 am »
ell, I think giving up your weapon damage/slot for the effect and about the cost of a dragon seems right.

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Re: Platinum Staff | Electrum Staff https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41172.msg509959#msg509959
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2012, 02:38:39 am »
ell, I think giving up your weapon damage/slot for the effect and about the cost of a dragon seems right.
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Re: Platinum Staff | Electrum Staff https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41172.msg509975#msg509975
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2012, 03:19:53 am »
so the weapon slot and damage is a decent sacrifice, weapons average 5 damage per turn, maybe 6. Thats every turn.

compare that to doubling spell damage.


What do you think would be a good cost? Im leaning towards 15|12 :rainbow

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Re: Platinum Staff | Electrum Staff https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41172.msg510002#msg510002
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2012, 05:02:16 am »
Like the idea, do not like it being colorless. Not sure what element it should belong to but I do feel like it should be a non weapon permanent that does not stack.(or instead of doubling be a stackable permanent that only adds 1 or 2 each one)

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Re: Platinum Staff | Electrum Staff https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41172.msg510014#msg510014
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2012, 05:24:27 am »
change it to "all spells deal double damage" and add an elemental association to make it fairer and less rainbow only. perhaps something like "all spells deal double damage. fire spells are not reflected." but maybe not that powerful. to really balance this just make it cost quanta of an element.

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Re: Platinum Staff | Electrum Staff https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41172.msg510016#msg510016
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2012, 05:28:43 am »
Im not going to make it Elemental Aligned. It should be usable in every element.

I will update the card in the morning with these changes. I think it stands as an Other Weapon best.

The Following Elements have Damage Spells as I recall, I want them all to be able to use it well.

 :darkness :air :aether :fire :water

The Following have Healing Spells, Id like them doubled as well

 :light :life :earth

The Following do not have Damage Spells, Id like a way to make them able to benefit from the staff

 :time :gravity  :entropy :death

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Re: Platinum Staff | Electrum Staff https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41172.msg510017#msg510017
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2012, 05:30:46 am »
well... unless you want to double times rewinds time sure isnt going to benifit. not: double rewinds=OP.

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Re: Platinum Staff | Electrum Staff https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41172.msg510020#msg510020
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2012, 05:34:36 am »
Make it use one of those pseudoquantas that are element of your mark.

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Re: Platinum Staff | Electrum Staff https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41172.msg510049#msg510049
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2012, 06:53:11 am »
Im not going to make it Elemental Aligned. It should be usable in every element.


My question to you is why? The more unique each color is and color combination is the better off the game is. The more things that all the elements share with each other the less unique identity each deck will hold. Colorless cards(other than shards) should remain a backup option to fill deck gaps, not the key to a strategy. I know this is all my opinion but I am speaking from where card direction has gone in the past.

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Re: Platinum Staff | Electrum Staff https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41172.msg510084#msg510084
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2012, 07:52:17 am »
Im not going to make it Elemental Aligned. It should be usable in every element.


My question to you is why? The more unique each color is and color combination is the better off the game is. The more things that all the elements share with each other the less unique identity each deck will hold. Colorless cards(other than shards) should remain a backup option to fill deck gaps, not the key to a strategy. I know this is all my opinion but I am speaking from where card direction has gone in the past.


because playing as a spellcaster should be a player level choice, not an elemental one. Elements themselves might show some bias, but in general, each element should be many styles. This is the kind of thing that benefits all elements, to emphasize a style and strategy over a particular alignment. Ads it stands, this is not to be Elementally attuned, and ois to be available to all Elementals that wish for strong spells.

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Re: Platinum Staff | Electrum Staff https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41172.msg510113#msg510113
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2012, 09:39:08 am »
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Im not going to make it Elemental Aligned. It should be usable in every element.

I will update the card in the morning with these changes. I think it stands as an Other Weapon best. Could you make it cost mirror quanta (quanta of your mark) like furball said?

The Following Elements have Damage Spells as I recall, I want them all to be able to use it well.

 :darkness :air :aether :fire :water

The Following have Healing Spells, Id like them doubled as well

 :light :life :earth +146 max hp per SS?

The Following do not have Damage Spells, Id like a way to make them able to benefit from the staff

 :time :gravity :entropy :death  Entropy has Chaos Seed

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Re: Platinum Staff | Electrum Staff https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41172.msg510144#msg510144
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2012, 01:46:04 pm »
Rather than increasing weapons cost, what if it increased Spell cost?  After all, even if it acts as an amplifier, you'd need to introduce more energy [e.g. quanta] to make the effects of the spell larger.

 

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