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Phoenixian | Phoenixian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21732.msg278389#msg278389
« on: February 25, 2011, 03:04:57 pm »
NAME:
Phoenixian
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
2 :fire
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0|2
TEXT:
Turns into Ash when killed.
:fire :fire : Consume
Sacrifice a creature, gains the att|hp of the creature.
NAME:
Phoenixian
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
1 :fire
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0|5
TEXT:
Turns into Ash when killed.
:fire : Consume
Sacrifice a creature, gains the att|hp of the creature.
ART:
David3000 (http://www.kongregate.com/accounts/David3000)
IDEA:
Originally inspired by Napalm Grenade's avatar picture
NOTES:
- The creature sacrificed must your own (if only there was more room to put text...).
- The Ash as a result of this card's death will turn into a normal Phoenix/Minor Phoenix respectively.
- All mechanics regarding the Phoenix also apply to this card (i.e. the new Skull Shield)
- Negative attacks will apply.
- Gains the status effects of the consumed creature as well.
- You may use the ability multiples times, but only once per turn.
- Ability to turn into Ash when killed is passive.
SERIES:
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Re: Phoenixian | Phoenixian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21732.msg278398#msg278398
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2011, 03:26:16 pm »
Imbalanced when combined with Nap!

On a more serious note, I think it'd be a good idea to get some more creature-synergy. There aren't that many creatures that really enhance eachothers strengths. Schrödinger's cats buff Condor's indirectly and there are probably more examples of indirect buffing.
Direct stat boosts with certain creature combinations like this card would be original and fun :D

I'm not looking forward seeing these in a fractal/phoenix deck though!

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Re: Phoenixian | Phoenixian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21732.msg278402#msg278402
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2011, 03:35:38 pm »
Cards that require a 2 card combo to work are not as high of quality typically as those that don't.
Cards that require a specific 2 card combo are too situational to be worthwhile at the current size of the card bank.
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Re: Phoenixian | Phoenixian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21732.msg278404#msg278404
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2011, 03:44:30 pm »
It is good but the FG phoenix he will become even Harder

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Re: Phoenixian | Phoenixian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21732.msg278406#msg278406
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2011, 03:47:19 pm »
Idk OldTrees. I like it! Situational or not... I'd use it :P
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Re: Phoenixian | Phoenixian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21732.msg278408#msg278408
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2011, 03:50:26 pm »
Idk OldTrees. I like it! Situational or not... I'd use it :P
If it were not situational it would be a fine card. Make it less situational please so people who use cards other than phoenix will use it and those that use phoenix and other creatures get an appropriate benefit.
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Re: Phoenixian | Phoenixian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21732.msg278428#msg278428
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2011, 04:10:53 pm »
art.... N/A?  credit please, regardless of if you ran a filter through it.

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Re: Phoenixian | Phoenixian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21732.msg278434#msg278434
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2011, 04:23:17 pm »
Using one of the top rated images on deviantart (and ALL deviantart art is copyrigthed unless excplitly said so) is not a good idea.

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Re: Phoenixian | Phoenixian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21732.msg278437#msg278437
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2011, 04:26:45 pm »
Using one of the top rated images on deviantart (and ALL deviantart art is copyrigthed unless excplitly said so) is not a good idea. Some artists will let you use their art if you ask nicely. Also there is a stock photo section there that usually only requires permission.
art.... N/A?  credit please, regardless of if you ran a filter through it.
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Original Art is from deviantart and requires you to purchase the art as well. (http://deviantwear.deviantart.com/art/Angel-of-Fire-Poster-119403085?q=boost%3Apopular%20Angel%20of%20Fire&qo=0)

Sorry TII, looks like you'll need different art.... or you could just spend $15. :P

Would this stock free image work for your card? (http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1046307)

As for the card itself...
Cards that require a 2 card combo to work are not as high of quality typically as those that don't.
Cards that require a specific 2 card combo are too situational to be worthwhile at the current size of the card bank?
^This.  Maybe instead of having it get +2 for phoenixes you could have it get +1 for every Fire creature or give it the "Fiery" ability similar to Farenheit?

Re: Phoenixian | Phoenixian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21732.msg278470#msg278470
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2011, 05:48:25 pm »
I will modify the ability a little after I find a new art
(I might do the drawing myself, I am fairly good at imaging on a computer)

locked until the art finishes
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Re: Phoenixian | Phoenixian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21732.msg278716#msg278716
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2011, 03:30:37 am »
updated with new art and ability
My gratitude to David3000 from Kongregate who allowed me to use his art (click the hyperlink in the OP to go to his profile page in Kongregate!)

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Re: Phoenixian | Phoenixian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21732.msg278761#msg278761
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2011, 05:45:59 am »
Good ability improvement.
I would suggest changing the activation cost to  :fire :fire| :fire
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