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Pacify|Pacify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55106.msg1147308#msg1147308
« on: July 24, 2014, 05:24:34 am »
NAME:
Pacify
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
3 :light
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
All creatures in play lose 1 attack.
NAME:
Pacify
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
5 :light
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
All opponent's creatures in play lose 1 attack.

ART:
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NOTES:
A form of soft CC for :light.  Synergizes very well with Hope, Sanctuary, and Miracle, for starters.  Much like Pandemonium, the unupped affects both sides of the field, but the upped only affects the opponent.

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Re: Pacify|Pacify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55106.msg1147309#msg1147309
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2014, 05:25:44 am »
Link the source in the art section. And make sure to credit yourself for the idea.

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Re: Pacify|Pacify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55106.msg1147310#msg1147310
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2014, 05:29:39 am »
Link the source in the art section. And make sure to credit yourself for the idea.

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Re: Pacify|Pacify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55106.msg1147314#msg1147314
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2014, 05:52:50 am »
I think the cost is balanced. I see a parallel to Pandemonium with the effect and cost change.
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Re: Pacify|Pacify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55106.msg1147346#msg1147346
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2014, 12:31:36 pm »
I think it is a little UP. Sure it is kinda linked to pandemonium, but pande can hurt creatures a lot more than this. I would suggest reduce the cost by 1 in both. And nice idea elk!
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Re: Pacify|Pacify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55106.msg1147384#msg1147384
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2014, 04:50:09 pm »
Krzysiekxd originally had an idea of a card that reduce an attack of a creature to 0. He originally named it Pacify too, but he now changed both the name and the mechanic. Here is his card:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/card-ideas-and-art/conversion-conversion-54924/

Now, however, openEtG already implemented Krzysiekxd's original idea (reducing ATK to 0) with the name Pacify, so it's a bit confusing. Just to let you know. ^^
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Re: Pacify|Pacify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55106.msg1147385#msg1147385
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2014, 05:00:28 pm »
& to add more on pre existing pacify-named mechanics: http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=pacifism

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Re: Pacify|Pacify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55106.msg1147387#msg1147387
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2014, 05:13:48 pm »
& to add more on pre existing pacify-named mechanics: http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=pacifism

I'm not really an MTG player (I've borrowed decks from friends to play with them, but that's about the extent of my playing, and even that was quite a few years ago).  I feel like the balance of my card and this card are pretty different, since the MTG version effectively nullifies a creature (if I'm reading it correctly, at least) whereas mine weakens a large number of creatures, but does anything you know about the MTG card lead to any balance suggestions for mine?
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Re: Pacify|Pacify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55106.msg1147398#msg1147398
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2014, 06:27:44 pm »
TL;DR: Remove 2 ATK instead of one for both versions and make it a permanent.

In MTG, you tend to not mitigate threats as to utterly remove it.
MTG is not a good way to balance this card. Why? Look below:

The most common way of reducing ATK (currently in standard) is hydrosurge. That gives a card minus 5 for 1 turn.
Pin to the earth is a more permanent effect, giving a creature -6 permanently.
A card that's very similar to your card, or the most similar, is cumber stone.
These are bad cards. All the better cards also reduce toughness, not ATK.

So we just have to balance it in ETG standards.
So I'm just gonna go on gut and say make it like cumber stone. Just better.

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Re: Pacify|Pacify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55106.msg1147404#msg1147404
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2014, 08:20:36 pm »
I'd be wary of removing too much attack, given that these can stack, and then be coupled with DR
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Re: Pacify|Pacify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55106.msg1147409#msg1147409
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2014, 09:09:06 pm »
If it's a permanent, and nightfall doesn't stack...

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Re: Pacify|Pacify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55106.msg1147410#msg1147410
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2014, 09:11:07 pm »
If it's a permanent, and nightfall doesn't stack...
It's not a permanent yet, and sanc does
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