Override | Override

[Hyroen]

NAME: Override ELEMENT: Gravity COST: 6 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Target a card on the field. Transform all the cards in the hand of the owner into target card.	NAME: Override ELEMENT: Gravity COST: 5 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Target a card on the field. Transform all the cards in the hand of the owner into target card.

ART: Hyroen (edited from Gravity Pull) IDEA: Hyroen NOTES: If you target a Gravity Tower on your side, all the cards in your hand become Gravity Tower. If you target a Horned Frog on the opponent's side, all the cards in their hand become Horned Frogs. Also, cards are replaced, not destroyed or killed. Weaknesses: Sanctuary, Cloak, Immaterial status Still concerned about the balance. Thoughts? SERIES:

[Dm]

My main worry was this to be used as simply a powerful nightmare. But I think having to use this on GotP would require the opponent to have it.

But after reading it a few times, my main concern is the usage of it as a complete denial. SoBra + This, and you could literally destroy the opponent deck. (Target something useless on his side such as a tower or a pend. All his creatures are now pends.)

[Laxadarap]

Thoughts brought up in chat:

• Extremeley flexible, pack this into a deck with a couple dims: either of fantastic defense if opponent has no PC, or increase your offence by quite a lot, sacrificing dims (you don't need anyway).
• Very good with sundials, and perms in general.  Kind of like a fractal that can work on perms, which worries me about abuse
• Gives gravy great burst potential, something it really doesn't have.  Build a defense on magios/oty's, then spam a hand full of chargers at opponent.
• Combo this with mutation, mutate opponents creature, then use this on it, entire hand is useless.
• One copy of this card can pretty much destroy any OTK.
• The flexibility this gives is the main factor imo, as that will be the most common use it sees if not in a specialized deck (like mutation).
• This plus magios is really good I think, but probably not OP.  Gives lots of catapult critters, though expensive.  Also, great defense.
• The quanta cost for all creatures may seem to be balancing, but fractal is the exact same way.
• More anti-rainbow

[Drake_XIV]

I'm worried about its status as a Fractal replacement and the abuse it can have with doomclock permanents.

[Hyroen]

I won't say it's balanced because I have some serious concerns about it, but I still want to see what ideas people have to work them out.

My main concerns with this card are: Mutants, Shields and Time-limit permanents.

[BaconCobra]

Alright. LOVE the idea. A nice new card though Im not entirely sure it is great for  . However, the following problems I have is this:


1. For the flexibility it provides for your own deck, its cost would be highly subject to testing.
2. Allows for the basis of deck building, meaning more copies for higher chance of drawing, to be disregarded a little.
3. Troubling combinations even if just used on yourself.

• Dim Shields
• Sundials

just to name 2.
4. The disruption it can cause to your opponent is quite severe. Mutate an opponents creature, then Override.
5. The opponent effectively loses the cards in their hand AND have to play with cards potentially unusable by their decks.
6. Fractal + Override for 8 extra copies of a card can be very powerful.

Just some initial thoughts. The utility in brings within a deck to magnify the effectiveness of a card through additional copies or the ability to hinder your opponent is pretty powerful in my opinion

[Chapuz]

I live it, but I think it should be restricted to creatures. And YAY for TONS of dolls!

[Hyroen]

I think a variety of conditions have to be met in order for this card to reach its peak power.

Card power increases with a fuller hand, and in general, as a match progresses the hand empties.

Could anyone think of an OP deck with this card?

[Laxadarap]

Not necessarily, for example, OTK's need a full hand at the end.  If your deck has a lot of CC and opponent has no creatures, then your hand will fill.  Also, you know your going to have this in your deck, and you can play accordingly.  When I'm Vsing a sobra stall, I try and keep my hand as full as possible, its definitely possible.

If you expect to be playing this, you can only empty your hand so fast, which in many cases you will be doing allready.  Any defensive shields can't really be spam played, meaning this card is weak against a rush, but very strong vs a stall. 

[Drake_XIV]

Something with Nightmare comes to mind.

[Laxadarap]

Just speedbuilt possibly strong/OP combos:   Titan=override

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Choose either dims or creatures, gives you awesome defense if opp has no PC.  If they do, choose which assault you want: Better burst but slower, of very fast attack and susceptible to shields.

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Mutate opp's creature, then ovveride it, opp's offense/defense is dead.  Choose between your offense.  Can easily put in Oty's as well, if you want a great lockdown.  2 of sofo/oty/guard/charger should give fun games .

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Plenty of quanta, all you need is 1 cremation, and like 1 gas: override should give you enough.  Wings can be duplicated as well, for a great defense if needed.  Can also put sundials in this, wings and air tower/pend were extra slots.

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Amazing defense, and as many catapults and magios as you could wish for.  Once you have catapults on field, extra just turn into armagios. 

These decks just take brains to play, don't empty your hand asap, calculate out quanta.  Now the question is, are they OP.  I'm really not sure, but these do destroy stalls, and again, 1 card can completely ruin any OTK brought against it.  Any decks that rely on combos would get destroyed, this would possibly even work against immorushes.  I think it counters too much personally.

EDIT: Final deck should have light mark.  First deck could fit in a couple fractals, for a 7 card conversion.

[Hyroen]

I think this is definitely a good candidate for Card Idea Testing, but thank you all for your helpful insight.

Especially Laxadarap and BaconCobra. +rep