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Cool idea. But is it really worth 6 cost? I think 5 would be fine. Can the attack go negative if you keep it alive?Yes it could gain negative attack
Edit: 2500!
Very interesting. Good synergy with death triggered effects. Bonewall in particular would take another dimension (using rewind on the skelletons).The cost can be lowered to 4 or 5 quanta
Might be a bit too expensive. Compare that to immortal (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1987.0.html).
As an illustration you might want to use a Moebius ring (http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1263263).
What happens if you put a ton of plate armor on it and it's attacks go negative?Then you heal the opponent of course. What else?
Alright. That seems like a good card, then. Not ridiculously powerful and still a lot of interesting ways to counteract or augment it.What happens if you put a ton of plate armor on it and it's attacks go negative?Then you heal the opponent of course. What else?
I like this card.
Ouroboros:Yeah, you might wanna name it Ouroboros (demon snake eating its own tail, right?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros
I like the idea. Basilisk blood would be a great counter.
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On that note, how is this affected by Aflatoxin and Skull Shield|Buckler ?I think it's similar to Phoenix
Both cards have weird interaction with Phoenix|Minor Phoenix
IIRC,
afla + phoenix = malig +ash (?)
s.shield/buckler + phoenix = skelly
Do a full forum search for Ouroboros.Oh...there was a similar idea in this forum...
Have someone mentions Fractal?Fractal makes everything OP...
For a 3 damage (average) and practically unkillable critter, this would feel OP.
Compare Frogtal which can be trumped with a single RoF.
By the same argument, Eternal Phoenix is OP.Have someone mentions Fractal?Fractal makes everything OP...
For a 3 damage (average) and practically unkillable critter, this would feel OP.
Compare Frogtal which can be trumped with a single RoF.
Example : Fractal a scarab and each of them costs only 2 quanta. But the scarabs will become large enough to devour every single creature in the field
So you are suggesting a lower damage for Ouroboros ? Or give it a upkeep cost ?By the same argument, Eternal Phoenix is OP.Have someone mentions Fractal?Fractal makes everything OP...
For a 3 damage (average) and practically unkillable critter, this would feel OP.
Compare Frogtal which can be trumped with a single RoF.
Example : Fractal a scarab and each of them costs only 2 quanta. But the scarabs will become large enough to devour every single creature in the field
But no, really. While Scarabs can still be killed with enough RoF, lobo'd, denied, this card can't. Get them out, got weaker average damage than Minor Phoenix, immortality forever.
Phoenix: 4 dmg, immortality, need :fire, delay a turn
Ouroboros: 3 average damage, immortality, no upkeep, no delay
Either increase the cost or make it immaterial to prevent fractalling. Instant rebirth isn't something to be underestimated.So you are suggesting a lower damage for Ouroboros ? Or give it a upkeep cost ?By the same argument, Eternal Phoenix is OP.Have someone mentions Fractal?Fractal makes everything OP...
For a 3 damage (average) and practically unkillable critter, this would feel OP.
Compare Frogtal which can be trumped with a single RoF.
Example : Fractal a scarab and each of them costs only 2 quanta. But the scarabs will become large enough to devour every single creature in the field
But no, really. While Scarabs can still be killed with enough RoF, lobo'd, denied, this card can't. Get them out, got weaker average damage than Minor Phoenix, immortality forever.
Phoenix: 4 dmg, immortality, need :fire, delay a turn
Ouroboros: 3 average damage, immortality, no upkeep, no delay
Either increase the cost or make it immaterial to prevent fractalling. Instant rebirth isn't something to be underestimated.I think the latter is better Thank you for your suggestion
5 or 6 :time should be enough.
OR,
Make it so before it rebirthed, it would drain one :time. If it can't, it's dead forever.
(i'd say 2 :time, but seeing that Ouroboros will die, sooner or later, it balanced out with Phoenix's rebirth)
... And now the upped becomes UP... (lower HP = bigger upkeep)You are right. Your suggestion is good.
Maybe make the upped stats 4/3 too, but with cost 2 :time?