Oblivion | Oblivion

[Bloodshadow]

NAME: Oblivion ELEMENT: Other COST: 4 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: - TEXT: Your opponent cannot see his or her field for 3 turns.	NAME: Oblivion ELEMENT: Other COST: 3 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: - TEXT: Your opponent cannot see his or her field for 3 turns.

ART: Bloodshadow IDEA: Bloodshadow, inspired by Nepycros (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21458.msg294731#msg294731) NOTES: The "" symbol does NOT denote a new element. Instead, that symbol means that when the card is played, your opponent gains that amount of quanta matching his or her Mark. I am using this symbol because there isn't enough space to put all this text in the card description. This card is a part of my Void series. Using Void cards give your opponent quanta, while Void Pillars take those quanta away. Both the Pillars and other Void cards can be put into normal decks, or they can be used together in a Mono-Void deck. This card is identical to Cloak, except it uses "Void quanta" and makes your opponent's field invisible to himself. You can still see his field and target it, but your opponent cannot. As Nepycros explained in the Void Distillate thread, oblivion is a state of absolute forgetfulness, thus this card makes your opponent "forget" what his field looked like. The only way for your opponent to reveal his field to himself before Oblivion wears off is to destroy Oblivion. SERIES: Void (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21514.0.html)

[Rutarete]

Very nice. I think 4 |3 is the cost for cloak right now, but i feel this ability has a bit more... 'gravity' to it. a bigger overall impact. Perhaps 5|4 for the cost?

[Bloodshadow]

I actually think that Cloak is slightly more powerful than Oblivion, since it protects your entire field. Cloak prevents control, while Oblivion prevents buffing; I think control is more prevalent than buffing so Cloak is a bit stronger.

[Bloodshadow]

I updated the card image.

[Glitch]

This is also a mass temporary lobotomize, because you cannot use active abilities if you cannot see your creatures.

[Bloodshadow]

This is also a mass temporary lobotomize, because you cannot use active abilities if you cannot see your creatures.

Good point. But I still think it's about as powerful as Cloak, since Cloak is mass temporary quint.

[Glitch]

Fair enough.  It fits in the unorthodox theme of void well.

[Avenger]

Haha, using in combination with cloak this one can be very annoying.

[Flayne]

i think this needs some serious clarification.

for one: what does it mean to the opponent when they can't see their own field? does it mean they can't target their own creatures?

2: when your opponent plays a card, its obviously blocked from sight on the field while effect is still on, correct?

3:

I actually think that Cloak is slightly more powerful than Oblivion, since it protects your entire field. Cloak prevents control, while Oblivion prevents buffing; I think control is more prevalent than buffing so Cloak is a bit stronger.

cloak has nothing to do with opponent, it just covers your own creatures. oblivion is the reverse, it affects your opponents side and doesn't let the opponent see their own creatures

[Genuinous]

Would "Opponent gains 3 quanta of his or her Mark."fit? The symbol would just be confusing....
I like the idea, but wouldn't it fit light better? Not sure other is the best fit... And then you could really have light darkness duos.
Would rain of fire, etc, remove this ability?

[ZephyrPhantom]

Would "Opponent gains 3 quanta of his or her Mark."fit? The symbol would just be confusing....
I like the idea, but wouldn't it fit light better? Not sure other is the best fit... And then you could really have light darkness duos.
Would rain of fire, etc, remove this ability?

All the cards are intentionally other to represent it being a Pseudo-Element.
"Opponent gains 3 quanta of his or her mark." may fit on some cards (like this one), but it normally will not on most of the Void cards since they all have their own effects. To be consistent it's better that a quantum symbol is used.
AoE CC like RoF would remove this, but that would be counterproductive since you'd be using your own AoE CC to disable your own permanent.

[Genuinous]

Would "Opponent gains 3 quanta of his or her Mark."fit? The symbol would just be confusing....
I like the idea, but wouldn't it fit light better? Not sure other is the best fit... And then you could really have light darkness duos.
Would rain of fire, etc, remove this ability?

All the cards are intentionally other to represent it being a Pseudo-Element.
"Opponent gains 3 quanta of his or her mark." may fit on some cards (like this one), but it normally will not on most of the Void cards since they all have their own effects. To be consistent it's better that a quantum symbol is used.
AoE CC like RoF would remove this, but that would be counterproductive since you'd be using your own AoE CC to disable your own permanent.

Thanks for clearing it up, the link for the series didn't work for me (messed up forums...).
Maybe just give them an ability, "Void" and just like its with Chargers (momentum) it's not explained there, but everyone would know what they mean. Just an idea, because the extra mark is still confusing.
My idea of RoF was just because it removes invisibility, and whether you don't see your opponent or yourself, it's still invisibility. How about Pandemonuim then? Or Unstable Gas? (just ideas, when you'd affect your creatures as well.