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Nymph Chronologist | Nymph Attendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54673.msg1139276#msg1139276
« on: June 07, 2014, 12:37:12 am »
NAME:
Nymph Chronologist
ELEMENT:
:time
COST:
5 :time
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4|5
TEXT:
Nymph Power:
This ability changes depending on your mark.
NAME:
Nymph Attendant
ELEMENT:
:time
COST:
5 :time
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
6 | 7
TEXT:
Nymph Power:
This ability changes depending on your mark.

ART:
A Small Child
IDEA:
Me (I hope. ;-;)
NOTES:
Nymph Power is (nearly) the same upped and unupped.
Each Nymph Power is designed to combo off of SoR.
This card is not airborne.
Incredibly rough outline of what each mark does, with thier price:

:entropy :entropy :entropy :entropy: Scramble
Scramble's the opponent's quanta. Like discord.

:death: Skeleton
Generates a skeleton. (Elite Skeleton if upped)
Need another effect...

:gravity :gravity :gravity :gravity: Devour
Devour? Duh? ... The four gravity cost is worth it given the fact of SoR and 7 HP.

:earth: Burrow
Burrow the target creature. It does not gain unburrow.

:life :life :life: Mitosis
Replace target creature's skill with mitosis.

:fire: Immolation (Cremation if upped)
Sacrifice a creature and nova. Just like cremation.

:water :water: Purify
Cast purify on something.

:light :light :light: Holy Flash
Cast holy Flash on something.

:air :air :air :air: Dive
Double the power of this creature for one turn... or twice if you use SoR... maybe thrice... for 24/48 damage.

:time :time :time :time :time :time: SoR
SoR. No, SoSac!

:darkness: Void
Reduce the opponent's maximum HP by 5, like SoV. This card does not care about mark.

:aether: Duality
Mindgate.

:chroma: Quantum Tower.
Generate 3 random quanta.

Idk, I just like SoR, but its "Use ability twice per turn" effect is unusable for the most part, outside of monotimes... (Hilarious, but still.)
« Last Edit: June 08, 2014, 03:22:36 am by Frozengaia »

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Re: Nymph Chronologist | Nymph Attendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54673.msg1139277#msg1139277
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2014, 12:45:25 am »
 :light power would be OP when facing Death/Darkness decks. I'd change it to Heal # HP or something similar.

Also, another suggestion. Maybe you could have Time's ability be  :time: Draw a card. Would that be too OP though..
« Last Edit: June 14, 2014, 04:21:08 pm by grimdragon64 »
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Re: Nymph Chronologist | Nymph Attendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54673.msg1139278#msg1139278
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2014, 12:46:06 am »
The name "Nymph Power" heavily implies that it has the power of other nymphs, not this arbitrary (albeit fun) collection.

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Re: Nymph Chronologist | Nymph Attendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54673.msg1139279#msg1139279
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2014, 12:47:46 am »
Nice idea. Some balance suggestions:

Scramble, Devour, Guard and Dive should cost 1 less
Mitosis is the spell, or create a copy of this creature? Either ways, 1 more to cost
Duality is pretty UP, it should cost 2 less IMO
Skeleton skill is also UP. Change it to 1 cost and Infection?
SoR skill is horribly overcosted; 3 :time is prolly balanced here.
Nova on a stick? LOLno. Better of as a random skill if Mark is chroma.
Holy Light skill is OP considering Light Nymph. Cost should be 3 :light.

Rest are good :D Though maybe upped should cost 6 :time, as it recieves a major boost to both attack and defense.
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Re: Nymph Chronologist | Nymph Attendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54673.msg1139280#msg1139280
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2014, 12:53:34 am »
SoR skill is horribly overcosted; 3 :time is prolly balanced here.
Except that it can target itself, meaning infinite uses for a one time cost.

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Re: Nymph Chronologist | Nymph Attendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54673.msg1139282#msg1139282
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2014, 12:56:59 am »
The card is designed to run off SoR, so an effect that's spammable is pretty much the goal.
Because of that, the cost of each ability technically means nothing.

Mitosis is the spell.
Skeleton skill... Well if I can't do poison or Afla...
The nova was actually a joke... hehe...

And who said there aren't other nymphs?
Nova nymph would just be weird... and probably already done.

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Re: Nymph Chronologist | Nymph Attendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54673.msg1139314#msg1139314
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2014, 08:53:06 am »
The card is designed to run off SoR, so an effect that's spammable is pretty much the goal.
Because of that, the cost of each ability technically means nothing.

Mitosis is the spell.
Skeleton skill... Well if I can't do poison or Afla...
The nova was actually a joke... hehe...

And who said there aren't other nymphs?
Nova nymph would just be weird... and probably already done.

But the beauty of the ability costs! They must be balanced! Resistance is futile :P
Personally, I think it's viable without SoR, and should be so.

SoR skill is horribly overcosted; 3 :time is prolly balanced here.
Except that it can target itself, meaning infinite uses for a one time cost.

Well then it's a one-time skill. But still 6 quanta + 1 turn is a bit overkill over 3 quanta + 1 Card. So skill cost is better as 4 :time at the most.
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Re: Nymph Chronologist | Nymph Attendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54673.msg1139343#msg1139343
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2014, 02:07:24 pm »
SoR skill is horribly overcosted; 3 :time is prolly balanced here.
Except that it can target itself, meaning infinite uses for a one time cost.
Well then it's a one-time skill. But still 6 quanta + 1 turn is a bit overkill over 3 quanta + 1 Card. So skill cost is better as 4 :time at the most.

You're missing my point. The turn after this creature is played, you get to use the ability at a cost of 6. You choose to target Nymph Chronologist to reduce its ability cost to zero and get 2 free uses. You then use the ability on one of your other creatures. Then, with the second free use, you target the Chronologist to get another 2 uses. Rinse and repeat to SoR your entire field in one turn, all for just 6 quanta.

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Re: Nymph Chronologist | Nymph Attendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54673.msg1139345#msg1139345
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2014, 02:20:03 pm »
You're missing my point. The turn after this creature is played, you get to use the ability at a cost of 6. You choose to target Nymph Chronologist to reduce its ability cost to zero and get 2 free uses. You then use the ability on one of your other creatures. Then, with the second free use, you target the Chronologist to get another 2 uses. Rinse and repeat to SoR your entire field in one turn, all for just 6 quanta.
are you still using instosis to grind FG?
SoR has no effect if used twice on a single creature in the same turn...

Then again, you can still use the ability on itself every turn, allowing it to target 2 creatures;
with 2 pharao's out, this means that (after the initial cost) you can get 4 scarabs out each turn for no cost.

with mark of :air, would this be airborne?
since you can use 'dive' thrice in a single turn with SoR (and a turn),
meaning that without buffs you could have it deal 48 damage...

would mark of :chroma add to the nova-limit?

also, with mark of :earth, SoR is useless.
be quick- time is quanta.

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Re: Nymph Chronologist | Nymph Attendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54673.msg1139388#msg1139388
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2014, 08:33:18 pm »
The best thing about this card is making edits to it means I don't have to change the card's image, which takes 10 minutes. Yay!

One thing I need to state nao, and probably should have, is that, because of the SoR effect, I feel I need to make every ability inferior to the actual version...
I guess the fact you need a duo deck to do any of this stuff as opposed to just a single card balances it out, right?
Eh, I'll bet on it. Making some changes...

This card is not airborne under any circumstance... Don't need SouFflé to have more things to play with.
:chroma Was a joke, I'll be replacing it with something actually balanced.
:earth is like wardens, except it's a :time card so you can use it twice and you don't need to buff it. Seems usable to me.
would give Chapuz more OTK to work with. Might actually make a decent unupped FG grinder for once...

...Would SoSac be a card worth spamming for :death? I know it probably isn't, I just want to be punished for suggesting it.

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Re: Nymph Chronologist | Nymph Attendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54673.msg1139407#msg1139407
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2014, 10:05:41 pm »
SoR for :time seems OP to me (exactly because of the scenario draco described).

Dive and devour may have issues because this is in element with SoR.
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Re: Nymph Chronologist | Nymph Attendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54673.msg1139415#msg1139415
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2014, 11:57:45 pm »
SoR needs a deck built around it to be useful. It's not that OP, really. Only somewhat.

 

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