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« on: July 04, 2015, 02:35:09 pm »
NAME:
Nihilist's Tome
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
6 :death
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Guild: Ruin ( :fire :death :time )
Weapon: Deals 5 damage whenever a creature of the guild's element is played.
NAME:
Nihilist's Tome
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
4 :death
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Guild: Ruin ( :fire :death :time )
Weapon: Deals 5 damage whenever a creature of the guild's element is played.

ART:

IDEA:
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NOTES:
"Uragiel was foolish for thinking his goals were meant to create anything. We will embody the destruction he was meant to personify." - Edictor Sladiel
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NAME:
Nihilist's Tome
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
4
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Guild: Ruin (:fire :death :time )
Weapon: Deals 5 damage whenever a creature of the guild's element is played.
NAME:
Nihilist's Tome
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
3
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Guild: Ruin (:fire :death :time )
Weapon: Deals 5 damage whenever a creature of the guild's element is played.

ART:

IDEA:
Zblader
NOTES:
"Uragiel was foolish for thinking his goals were meant to create anything. We will embody the destruction he was meant to personify." - Edictor Sladiel
SERIES:

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Re: Nihilist's Tome | Nihilist's Tome https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58800.msg1195488#msg1195488
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2015, 02:44:32 pm »
So, it doesn't attack every turn? Only when that happens?
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Re: Nihilist's Tome | Nihilist's Tome https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58800.msg1195489#msg1195489
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2015, 02:47:21 pm »
So, it doesn't attack every turn? Only when that happens?
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Re: Nihilist's Tome | Nihilist's Tome https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58800.msg1195500#msg1195500
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2015, 03:34:12 pm »
Say, I played a pair of Minor Phoenixes in the same turn. Does Nihilist's Tome deal two instances of five points, one instance of ten points, or one instance of five points?

Also, this being a tome, is the damage dealt spell damage?
« Last Edit: July 04, 2015, 04:09:25 pm by Basman-1453 »
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Re: Nihilist's Tome | Nihilist's Tome https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58800.msg1195502#msg1195502
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2015, 03:39:55 pm »
Two packets of 5 it would seem, unless it saves the damage until you end your turn.

Would it do the damage when said creature enters the field or does it have to be played from the hand? e.g. Deja Vu.

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Re: Nihilist's Tome | Nihilist's Tome https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58800.msg1195505#msg1195505
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2015, 03:53:31 pm »
This looks massively OP in a Fractix... 5 damage for each Minor Phoenix being played, and it can easily be played with the off-element quanta of Cremation.
Hard to balance, as Fractal does it's "make CIA hard" job pretty good here. At least non-fire-elemental cost is needed. You may also restrict it to 1 shot per turn for creatures from your hand, while creature spawning does also trigger this (thumbs up for Dejas and Boneyard, but also SoR-Pharaohs).
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Re: Nihilist's Tome | Nihilist's Tome https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58800.msg1195557#msg1195557
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2015, 10:15:14 am »
Say, I played a pair of Minor Phoenixes in the same turn. Does Nihilist's Tome deal two instances of five points, one instance of ten points, or one instance of five points?

Also, this being a tome, is the damage dealt spell damage?
Due to being a weapon, damage dealt is physical, as counterinuitive as that may be. I am willing to change the card's flavor if needed.
2 instances of 5 damage.
This looks massively OP in a Fractix... 5 damage for each Minor Phoenix being played, and it can easily be played with the off-element quanta of Cremation.
Hard to balance, as Fractal does it's "make CIA hard" job pretty good here. At least non-fire-elemental cost is needed. You may also restrict it to 1 shot per turn for creatures from your hand, while creature spawning does also trigger this (thumbs up for Dejas and Boneyard, but also SoR-Pharaohs).
Noted. It seems Guild cards in general play better if put in one of the guild's elements. I've changed the card to cost 6 :death | 4 :death for the time being.

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Re: Nihilist's Tome | Nihilist's Tome https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58800.msg1195560#msg1195560
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2015, 11:47:49 am »
I see~

Now, I wonder whether this weapon will be triggered when (Elite) Boneyard is triggered. 'cause when it is, just imagine what'll happen when Incarnate-style decks wield this.
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Re: Nihilist's Tome | Nihilist's Tome https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58800.msg1195561#msg1195561
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2015, 11:58:55 am »
I see~

Now, I wonder whether this weapon will be triggered when (Elite) Boneyard is triggered. 'cause when it is, just imagine what'll happen when Incarnate-style decks wield this.
Graveyard, Parallel Universe, and Mitosis do not trigger the effect. You must play the creature from your hand.

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Re: Nihilist's Tome | Nihilist's Tome https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58800.msg1195562#msg1195562
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2015, 12:02:04 pm »
I see~

Now, I wonder whether this weapon will be triggered when (Elite) Boneyard is triggered. 'cause when it is, just imagine what'll happen when Incarnate-style decks wield this.
Graveyard, Parallel Universe, and Mitosis do not trigger the effect. You must play the creature from your hand.

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