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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1142070#msg1142070
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2014, 11:56:53 pm »
Time can see hands because it can see the future.

Air can scout out the enemy's resources, so it seeing the opponent's hand is justifiable.
Darkness can do EVIL MENTAL ATTACKS MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA to see the opponent's hand, to make that justifiable. (Or, should be able to. >:U)

I don't think it needs relation to time.
Darkness mind**** mechanic could justify it too... although I think a :darkness cost / assosciation is in order in that case.
It is a little odd, however, to have darkness reveal the enemy hand since darkness is more about occluding information rather than revealing it (which is why I think this mechanic has a closer thematic link to :time rather than :darkness ).
The idea of scouting makes sense though.
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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1142081#msg1142081
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2014, 02:30:46 am »
Time can see hands because it can see the future.

Air can scout out the enemy's resources, so it seeing the opponent's hand is justifiable.
Darkness can do EVIL MENTAL ATTACKS MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA to see the opponent's hand, to make that justifiable. (Or, should be able to. >:U)

I don't think it needs relation to time.
Darkness mind**** mechanic could justify it too... although I think a :darkness cost / assosciation is in order in that case.
It is a little odd, however, to have darkness reveal the enemy hand since darkness is more about occluding information rather than revealing it (which is why I think this mechanic has a closer thematic link to :time rather than :darkness ).
The idea of scouting makes sense though.

well as I said earlier, air is an owl, and owls are creatures of the nightl, and the cloak is the night.
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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1142219#msg1142219
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2014, 02:36:32 pm »

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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1142223#msg1142223
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2014, 03:05:53 pm »
Relevant openEtG card:
"play reveal" = Reveals opponent's hand when this card is played.
"nocturnal" = Gets bonus from Nightfall/Eclipse
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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1142226#msg1142226
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2014, 03:36:11 pm »


Yes, accept its meant to be to go with cloak, also cloak effects whole field, so it seemed to fit better to me.

Relevant openEtG card:
"play reveal" = Reveals opponent's hand when this card is played.
"nocturnal" = Gets bonus from Nightfall/Eclipse

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY, anyway this is different somewhat. But I do not like that I keep making cards that end up being the same as one's in ETG.
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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1142227#msg1142227
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2014, 03:37:34 pm »
I did not mean to discourage you in any way, just showed it for comparison.
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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1142236#msg1142236
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2014, 04:01:41 pm »
I did not mean to discourage you in any way, just showed it for comparison.

K, sry I just been used to people having made cards before, and I don't I have trouble taking criticism  :P.
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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1142246#msg1142246
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2014, 04:46:46 pm »
What if this card allowed you to look at the next X draws whilst it's cloaked?

THERE, DIFFERENT.

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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1142249#msg1142249
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2014, 04:50:15 pm »
What if this card allowed you to look at the next X draws whilst it's cloaked?

THERE, DIFFERENT.

Or you can see what your opponent draws as long as this card is cloaked?
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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1142261#msg1142261
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2014, 05:11:55 pm »
That was what I meant...

You can see the top three cards of your opponent's library whilst this card is cloaked.
And yours, too... That'd be nice. But mainly your opponent's.

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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1142303#msg1142303
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2014, 10:01:36 pm »
That was what I meant...

You can see the top three cards of your opponent's library whilst this card is cloaked.
And yours, too... That'd be nice. But mainly your opponent's.
Seeing the top 3 cards in a deck could be tricky to pull off. Not so much because of balance but because it would probably take reworking the game board layout and likely a lot of code rewiring as well.
Its a cool idea, but it could take a lot of work.

Seeing your opponent's cards as they draw them, however, is very doable. It is also distinct enough from precog that it may be safe.
Precog would still be slightly stronger in that it allows you to see what is already in their hand rather than only getting to see anything new that is drawn.

I really like that concept!
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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1142330#msg1142330
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2014, 01:14:33 am »
Umm, IIRC, Precog remains active till the end of the opponents turn, so you see what the opponent draws. Or am I wrong?
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