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Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1141801#msg1141801
« on: June 23, 2014, 09:27:10 pm »
NAME:
Night Owl
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
4 :air
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3| 3
TEXT:
As long as this creature is cloaked you can see your opponents draw.
NAME:
Night Owl
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
4 :air
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4| 4
TEXT:
As long as this creature is cloaked you can see your opponents draw.

ART:

IDEA:
Torriku
NOTES:
Cloak isn't much use, now it could be. Also it is of course Airborne.

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NAME:
Night Owl
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
4 :air
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3| 3
TEXT:
As long as this creature is cloaked you can see your opponents hand.
NAME:
Night Owl
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
4 :air
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4| 4
TEXT:
As long as this creature is cloaked you can see your opponents hand.

ART:
Once again this is another of my many ideas. Please help me balance it and give feedback.

IDEA:
Torriku
NOTES:
Cloak isn't much use, now it could be. Also it is of course Airborne.
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« Last Edit: June 26, 2014, 07:11:36 pm by Torriku »
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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1141802#msg1141802
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2014, 09:29:53 pm »
Well, the obvious comparison would be to precog.

I doubt a duo is worth three turns of precog.
Make the card :darkness.

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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1141803#msg1141803
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2014, 09:32:17 pm »
Well, the obvious comparison would be to precog.

I doubt a duo is worth three turns of precog.
Make the card :darkness.

I thought owls fit better in air, and a due would make for more nightmare air decks instead of just ghostmare.
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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1141804#msg1141804
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2014, 09:33:57 pm »
It's a decent creature and while no, the ability alone doesn't make the duo worth it, it might be a nice bonus to someone already inclined towards darkness and air.
Perhaps "When this creature enters play or is cloaked" for the ability so as to give it usage in a mono but IMO it shouldn't change element.

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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1141806#msg1141806
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2014, 09:39:43 pm »
Well, thematically... Yes, owls are more fit for air.

However, this card is heavily overshadowed by wyrm in terms of damage.
Then again, it would have to compete with vampire and gargoyle in darkness, which I would personally prefer over the owl.

As for the ability, precog is one turn for 2/1  :time and card draw in one card, when this owl would be 4 :air + 4/3 :darkness for three turns in 2 cards.
Then again, who uses precog for the reveal...

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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1141855#msg1141855
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2014, 12:38:33 am »
Then again, who uses precog for the reveal...

The reveal can be quite useful in PvP to know the exact condition of your opponent's hand  ::)

However, precog for consecutive three turns makes it lose a bit of punch. Also with cloak in play, knowing your opponent's hand becomes less useful. IMO This could actually be like Ghost of the Past / Toadfish (i.e. Attack > cost) due to the duo and direct card combo. So stats like 5|3 and 6|4, perhaps?
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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1141867#msg1141867
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2014, 01:08:27 am »
I think this should probably be a :time card (or work in the :time element connection some other way) so that it doesn't overshadow precognition.
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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1141873#msg1141873
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2014, 01:30:10 am »
I think this should probably be a :time card (or work in the :time element connection some other way) so that it doesn't overshadow precognition.

Well when I was making it people seemed to like that it would last more then a turn like precog, also it lets cloak be useful.
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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1141895#msg1141895
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2014, 02:22:59 am »
I think this should probably be a :time card (or work in the :time element connection some other way) so that it doesn't overshadow precognition.

Well when I was making it people seemed to like that it would last more then a turn like precog, also it lets cloak be useful.
I agree, I just think it needs a connection to the :time element somehow so that it doesn't infringe thematically.
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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1141906#msg1141906
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2014, 03:36:37 am »
I think this should probably be a :time card (or work in the :time element connection some other way) so that it doesn't overshadow precognition.

Well when I was making it people seemed to like that it would last more then a turn like precog, also it lets cloak be useful.
I agree, I just think it needs a connection to the :time element somehow so that it doesn't infringe thematically.

Increase cost and make it have reverse time? or what do you think.
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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1141997#msg1141997
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2014, 05:05:02 pm »
Time can see hands because it can see the future.

Air can scout out the enemy's resources, so it seeing the opponent's hand is justifiable.
Darkness can do EVIL MENTAL ATTACKS MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA to see the opponent's hand, to make that justifiable. (Or, should be able to. >:U)

I don't think it needs relation to time.

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Re: Night Owl|Night Owl https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54816.msg1142004#msg1142004
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2014, 05:44:34 pm »
Time can see hands because it can see the future.

Air can scout out the enemy's resources, so it seeing the opponent's hand is justifiable.
Darkness can do EVIL MENTAL ATTACKS MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA to see the opponent's hand, to make that justifiable. (Or, should be able to. >:U)

I don't think it needs relation to time.

Yep, and cloak = night to this card since Owls nocturnal.
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