Idun's Eye | Idun's Heart

[Atze123]

NAME: Idun's Eye ELEMENT: Aether COST: 9 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: -|- TEXT: All non-immortal creatures are now immortal and vice versa as long as this card is in play.	NAME: Idun's Heart ELEMENT: Aether COST: 7 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: -|- TEXT: All non-immortal creatures are now immortal and vice versa as long as this card is in play.

ART: a friend of mine IDEA: Atze123 NOTES: Its a both good counter against Mono-Aether and a good way to protect your creatures. To be not too OP, its a permanent, so you can destroy it and the whole effect is gone. For all who don't know Idun: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%C3%B0unn She is the godess of youth and immortality of the norse mythology, so i called this card after her . SERIES: -

[waterzx]

While this card is a good and creative idea, I do have a question :

Right now, the only thing that can hurt immortal creatures are shields and this is why immortal creatures are so useful.

Wouldn't this card make immortal creatures less useless because those "immortal" are no longer immortal ?

Maybe need some change in mechanics but I do like the massive immortality function.

[Atze123]

@waterzx
hmm good question i will think about it...

[Mathematistic]

While this card is a good and creative idea, I do have a question :

Right now, the only thing that can hurt immortal creatures are shields and this is why immortal creatures are so useful.

Wouldn't this card make immortal creatures less useless because those "immortal" are no longer immortal ?

Maybe need some change in mechanics but I do like the massive immortality function.

Actually, it's meant to counter immortal creatures, and people running a deck with this certainly won't include immortal creatures...
It also gives more counters to immortality at a high cost. While functioning perfectly VS monoaether and a lot of creature targeting dependent decks (e.g. VD universe), it fails massively VS rushers, which is perfectly balanced IMO.

[waterzx]

Actually, it's meant to counter immortal creatures, and people running a deck with this certainly won't include immortal creatures...
It also gives more counters to immortality at a high cost. While functioning perfectly VS monoaether and a lot of creature targeting dependent decks (e.g. VD universe), it fails massively VS rushers, which is perfectly balanced IMO.

This is true. And this card is probably balanced.

But when the game says immortality, I wouldn't expect anything to harm my creature. Shields killing immortal is already ridiculous. Adding more cards to harm the immortal serve the purpose of adding variety to game-play, but would cause the loss of the game's theme.

Anyway, I think this card could be fine.

[moomoose]

its a really awkward card.  the effect is massive and it would effectively remove CC from the game, unless the opponent has a sufficient means of PC.

[OdinVanguard]

Interesting idea. I've been contemplating something similar for permanents, but it seems tricky to make without breaking the game.
To me, this card just seems like it will be too hard to balance right as it is. I think adding a limited duration here would probably help a lot though.

From a defensive point of view, this effect is like an ultra effective creature only cloak. Since cloak has a limited shelf life, i would expect this should to.
Offensively, it does give a means to counter immortals directly without needing shields. But again, this should probably be a temporary thing or else it kind of defeats the point of having immortality to begin with.

One very fun feature I can see is that it would allow you a chance to heal and buff your own immortal creatures which wouldn't be possible before. This would make for some fun aether duo decks.

Limited duration also fits the "Idun" theme since she did get returned eventually.

[Angrist]

I like this idea but agree that it needs to have a limited lifespan.  Maybe 2 turns.  That would be plenty of time to throw some buffs at your creatures before going back to throwing lightning bolts at your enemy's. 
Question:  would a creature put into play when Idun's Eye is already in play be given immortality immediately, or would it gain immortality permanently once Idun's Eye leaves play?  Personally, I think the latter would be more interesting.