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Kylixir

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Multi Colored Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1696.msg14949#msg14949
« on: December 30, 2009, 12:07:50 pm »
The idea is fairly basic in theory, but not in practice I'm sure. Pillars that contribute more than one type of quantam.
I'm not talking about Quantam pillars either. Pillars that cater to duo, trio, even quad colored decks. This idea is not new
here I've noticed, everyone wants to get their fusion-ha on. But I will, in detail, explain how it could work.

Take a look at this picture

As you can see, at the fusion center or what have you, there are 5 potential boxes where you can place your wanted
elements. This would either make a Dual Pillar, Combined Pillar, Diverse Pillar, or a Slurred Pillar. For 2,3,4, and 5
respectively.

How would this generate Quantas in a fair way? Simple, it gives you the Quantas is a clockwise pattern. In the example above
the Diverse pillar would turn one generate a Time, turn two a Life, and turns three and four would both generate Darkness.

This mechanic would solve the fact that multi-colored decks have an issue with CONSISTENCY (Non-Rambo of course)
Have you ever held a full hand of cards that are differently colored than your 5 pillars? Or maybe you have a pillar you need
but you only have ONE of it.

Do you think this would be over powered? I don't think so. It slows the deck down by quite a bit, having a pillar that
rotates Quantas is actually quite balanced in my opinion. All it does is help with consistency. Having no cards to match your
pillars while the opponent beats on your face is not fun at all.

Thoughts?

Oh, here's a nice little yin-yang I made. (Ignore the fact that there's no pillar in this picture... Or ability text.)

Kylixir

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Re: Multi Colored Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1696.msg14950#msg14950
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2009, 12:08:47 pm »
Clarifacation and Specifics. (Will be updated with more collaboration)

First off, when one of these towers are played it starts at the top of the clockwise cycle. If you have a stack of 5, well it
depends on when you played each one! A stack of 5 could be getting you 5 different quantas. Assuming you played one each turn
and it has 5 different elements.

All Dual, Combined, Diverse, and Slurred towers stack in different groups. But each of the towers stack with themselves
regardless of what element combonation is inside. I.E. 3 Dual towers are stacked. One gives Time and Death, another gives
Water and Life, and the last gives Earth and Gravy

The cost for the towers is as follows.
Dual = 24
Combined = 54
Diverse = 96
Slurred = 150
Seems like decent prices. (Formula is 6X^2, where X is the amount of elements)

I honestly don't know how the upgraded version of the cards would work.

bobcamel

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Re: Multi Colored Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1696.msg14955#msg14955
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2009, 01:28:39 pm »
Yay gravy is an element

Also, every type of pillar would have to be a separate card, they couldn't stack. Even if you put the same elements but in different order or even just moved them one slot right each, this'd form a new pillar.

The idea itself is pretty good, but it depends on if cards can be procedurally generated.

Sigh

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Re: Multi Colored Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1696.msg14979#msg14979
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2009, 06:16:50 pm »
Despite the lack of stacking* I think this is a pretty solid idea, even though no sane person would ever have all 5 slots filled (unless there were multiples of each element like in the pic). Kudos to making one of the most talked about ideas an image to back it up with.


*I don't think that's too big of a deal since we have so much space for permanents anyway. I mean, even the most complicated rainbow deck with steals will probably only go a couple cards into the second row.

Celidion

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Re: Multi Colored Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1696.msg14981#msg14981
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2009, 06:21:46 pm »
I love this, I could finally make a deck I've been wanting to make forever. I would think the prices would need to be increased though.

Sigh

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Re: Multi Colored Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1696.msg14985#msg14985
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2009, 06:28:00 pm »
Why increase the price? Getting a deck ful of these would cost a lot, especially if you don't need one of the elements anymore and need to replace your pillars.

slovenc555

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Re: Multi Colored Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1696.msg14992#msg14992
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2009, 07:45:10 pm »
awesome! but it would make my card easy to use... btw, i really want to know if you'd chose the same element 5 times. would it produce 5 quanta of one element?

bobcamel

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Re: Multi Colored Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1696.msg14994#msg14994
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2009, 08:06:21 pm »
*facepalm*

No. It'd make the pillar generate 5 of the same type quantum over 5 turns, what works like a normal pillar.

Kylixir

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Re: Multi Colored Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1696.msg15023#msg15023
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2009, 01:13:05 am »
Every type of pillar would have to be a separate card, they couldn't stack. Even if you put the same elements but in different order or even just moved them one slot right each, this'd form a new pillar.
You're probably right about that, like they say, when dealing with a game the limit isn't your imagination. It's what can be written in code.

Sigh

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Re: Multi Colored Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1696.msg15030#msg15030
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2009, 01:57:16 am »
But again that's probably not a big problem (lag aside). There's almost as much space in the permanents space as there is in the monster area, so not having them stack would just be taking up all that unused space.

Kylixir

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Re: Multi Colored Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1696.msg15036#msg15036
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2009, 02:38:10 am »
I do have this to say though. What's the fun part about a card game? Making decks and playing them right? If so then wouldn't this be a good implementation? I mean sure you can really create a lot of decks here, but only a few of them are practical, and that takes half the fun out of the game. Playing the same decks over and over would really get boring. This would broaden the spectrum of available decks.

slovenc555

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Re: Multi Colored Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1696.msg16267#msg16267
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2010, 08:27:11 pm »
tell me about it! i had this mono-dark deck, but reset my account coz it got really boring. now i'm playing with a earth/gravity (all reare cards on hold, saveing them for a rainbow) deck. it's only half the score and money makeing, but fun!

 

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