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Moon Dial | Luna Dial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42934.msg535163#msg535163
« on: August 20, 2012, 08:13:52 pm »
NAME:
Moon Dial
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
2 :darkness
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Both sides of the fields are cloaked for 1 turn.
:darkness : Gain 6 :light .
NAME:
Luna Dial
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
2 :darkness
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Both sides of the fields are cloaked for 1 turn.
:light : Gain 6 quantum of your mark.

ART:
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NOTES:
A thematic opposite to Sundial. Sundial protects you and draws cards - Moondial protects creatures and gives you quanta.

The dual cloak effect signals the coming of night, whereas the ability indirectly signifies the movement of the moon as it reflects sunlight onto the elemental to empower it. (Making the unupped ability cost :gravity or :time might be appropriate, but that makes the card a trio and harder to use properly in a deck focused around it.)

Unupped, it's useful in :darkness / :light decks that need more :light to pay for it's expensive cards. Can also be used in a :light deck with a :darkness mark to store :light quanta or accelerate quantum production.

Upped, the card takes more of a trio/rainbow stance - if you can provide the initial :darkness / :light , it's possible to run trio with Luna Dials focusing on buffering the main element production using a :darkness or :light mark. Nova/SNova cans also use this for more mark focus in a rainbow, at the cost of faster production of quanta that one might get a from a pendulum in a PSNbow.

Like Sundial, this card self-destructs after 1 turn.
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« Last Edit: August 21, 2012, 01:04:21 am by Zblader »

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Re: Moon Dial | Luna Dial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42934.msg535167#msg535167
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2012, 08:17:33 pm »
Holy nej. 3 :darkness + 1 turn for 6 :light? 2 :darkness + 1 :light + 1 turn for 6 mark quanta? Is that balanced?

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Re: Moon Dial | Luna Dial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42934.msg535171#msg535171
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2012, 08:22:55 pm »
It is indeed thematic. I really like the trio support for the upped.

These would make a Great Miracle Stall deck.
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Re: Moon Dial | Luna Dial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42934.msg535174#msg535174
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2012, 08:26:19 pm »
Holy nej. 3 :darkness + 1 turn for 6 :light? 2 :darkness + 1 :light + 1 turn for 6 mark quanta? Is that balanced?
Nova is 0 :entropy + 1 card + 0 turns for 12  :rainbow (technically more of that, since it's one of each) = Net gain 12
Immolation is 0 :fire + 2 cards  + 0 turns for 5 :fire + Nova = Net gain 6 + 11
Dial is 3 :darkness + 1 card + 1 turn for 6 :light = Net Gain 3
Dial uses 1 less card than Immolation at the cost of a turn and approximately half the net gain. Compared to Nova it uses 1 less card and one more turn for 1/4 the potential net gain.

Supernova is 2 :entropy + 1-2 :underworld + 1 card + 0 turns for 24  :rainbow (technically more of that, since it's two of each) = Net Gain 22
Immolation is 0 :fire + 1-2 :underworld + 2 cards  + 0 turns for 7 :fire + Nova = Net Gain 8 + 11
Dial is 2 :darkness + 1 :light + 1-2 :underworld + 1 card + 1 turn for 6  :underworld = Net Gain 3
Here, Dial gets no better at net gain or speed of production compared to Immo and Nova. However, it compensates by allowing the player to focus on mark quanta of their choice instead of forcing the deck to be :fire - centric or a rainbow.

Overall : Dial sacrifices efficiency of faster quantum gain spells for additional flexibility. However such flexibility can be very useful in decks that know how to use it. (two dials can power an upgraded Miracle, for example).
It is indeed thematic. I really like the trio support for the upped.

These would make a Great Miracle Stall deck.
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« Last Edit: August 20, 2012, 08:33:25 pm by Zblader »

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Re: Moon Dial | Luna Dial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42934.msg535227#msg535227
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2012, 12:47:34 am »
With the 1 turn cloak effect, i am assuming it disappears after 1 turn too?

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Re: Moon Dial | Luna Dial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42934.msg535228#msg535228
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2012, 01:04:41 am »
With the 1 turn cloak effect, i am assuming it disappears after 1 turn too?
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Re: Moon Dial | Luna Dial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42934.msg535234#msg535234
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2012, 01:31:19 am »
Hrm...interesting, but I can't help but think that with how defensive  :light is,  :darkness cards really should have more offensive abilities...Then again, I guess stuff that won't get caught on  :light's Santuary would be good as well.
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Re: Moon Dial | Luna Dial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42934.msg535246#msg535246
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2012, 02:20:18 am »
I think this card is alright personally. Seems quite a shift from the unupped and upped.

It could be a useful card when there are more :darkness and  :light synergies in the near future.
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Re: Moon Dial | Luna Dial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42934.msg536265#msg536265
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2012, 09:17:49 pm »
Nice card mechanics, however I personally wouldn't buff  :light/ :darkness synergy no matter what. Vader Sader decks are already extremely powerful. But yes, I love the idea. :D
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Re: Moon Dial | Luna Dial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42934.msg536266#msg536266
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2012, 09:20:46 pm »
Nice card mechanics, however I personally wouldn't buff  :light/ :darkness synergy no matter what. Vader Sader decks are already extremely powerful. But yes, I love the idea. :D
I don't think Vader Sader decks would gain too much power from this - even if they get quanta "bursts" faster, they still need to time dials so that they can play crusaders when needed. Lack of a continuous :light source is also bad for stacking Blessings consecutively on Vampsaders.

 

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