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Mjöllnir | Mjöllnir https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20566.msg261180#msg261180
« on: January 31, 2011, 10:51:03 am »
NAME:
Mjöllnir
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
3   :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Weapon: deal 4 damage at the end of every turn.
Bash: has a chance to bash the opponent.
NAME:
Mjöllnir
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
3   :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Weapon: deal 5 damage at the end of every turn.
Bash: has a chance to bash the opponent.
ART:
Art by Arnaud Ramey
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IDEA:
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NOTES:
- Bash: has a chance to deal double damage and delay the opponents weapon for two turns.
- The chance of bash to proc is 30%
- Delays the opponents weapon (just like casting BB on a voodoo doll would) for two turns.
- Cheap weapon for gravity. Titan is for offense, Mjöllnir is for defensive purposes.
- Mjöllnir is the hammer of the norse god Thor, I still need art though!
SERIES:
As said before, I still need art. Also I need to know if this idea hasn't been worked out before so I don't do double work.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Mjöllnir | Mjöllnir https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20566.msg261427#msg261427
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2011, 07:52:16 pm »
looks good to me

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Re: Mjöllnir | Mjöllnir https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20566.msg261439#msg261439
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2011, 08:09:31 pm »
What are the stats for the weapon when animated?  Thematically, it sounds pretty cool, and the ability would well in a stall.

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Re: Mjöllnir | Mjöllnir https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20566.msg261448#msg261448
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2011, 08:21:04 pm »
What are the stats for the weapon when animated?  Thematically, it sounds pretty cool, and the ability would well in a stall.
Yeah I was thinking Gravity has some nice stall elements, and it's weapon didn't add to that.

I haven't thought about the animated stats but I'm thinking at least it should be alot less hp then the Titan (to at least be different and reflect the card cost). Maybe about 10 hp to still have the hp a gravity creature should have and not to replace Titan.

This weapon would also be a nice target for a crusader to endow, since multiple would pretty much cancel out the opponents weapon and do some sweet damage.

I'm just gonna go and see where the discussion leads before making the card, since I'm not sure this idea is going to be popular.

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Re: Mjöllnir | Mjöllnir https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20566.msg261528#msg261528
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2011, 11:18:05 pm »
is the delay stackable? (i assue yes?)

I'm trying to understand costing better so thought i'd try work it out for this weapon (using OldTrees' link as help), this is what i came to:

Cost of attack is 5.2 (average damage). Add cost of delay at 2 (imo, could even perhaps be 1) per hit is 0.6. So total cost is 5.2+0.6=5.8~6. Then -3 for single slot=3. Hence (if i've worked it out correctly!) the cost could be lowered to 3 for unupped.

For upped i get: 6.5+0.6-3=4. However, it's an upped card, so needs upgrade bonus...(-1 cost or higher % for bash or other...).

Hope that's any help, i'm still learning so best check with the pros!

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Re: Mjöllnir | Mjöllnir https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20566.msg261539#msg261539
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2011, 11:32:30 pm »
is the delay stackable? (i assue yes?)

I'm trying to understand costing better so thought i'd try work it out for this weapon (using OldTrees' link as help), this is what i came to:

Cost of attack is 5.2 (average damage). Add cost of delay at 2 (imo, could even perhaps be 1) per hit is 0.6. So total cost is 5.2+0.6=5.8~6. Then -3 for single slot=3. Hence (if i've worked it out correctly!) the cost could be lowered to 3 for unupped.

For upped i get: 6.5+0.6-3=4. However, it's an upped card, so needs upgrade bonus...(-1 cost or higher % for bash or other...).

Hope that's any help, i'm still learning so best check with the pros!
I agree with rohlfo's calculation.
Most (all?) weapons cost the same unupped and upped 3 :gravity|3 :gravity sounds fair.
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Re: Mjöllnir | Mjöllnir https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20566.msg261817#msg261817
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2011, 08:00:55 am »
Thanks for that Rohlfo, I updated it.

I'll make a poll wether to decide if it should stack or not, if it would it could block out the opponents weapon for an entire game, that sounds a bit to much really. They should get at least one turn to get their ability/hit in (just like permafrozen opponents get one hit every now and then)

I don't wanna ruin every eternity based deck out there, making them deck out.

**edit** Don't know how to make a poll, let's just discuss!

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Re: Mjöllnir | Mjöllnir https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20566.msg261962#msg261962
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2011, 03:03:02 pm »
I don't wanna ruin every eternity based deck out there, making them deck out.
Stopping the weapon even 1 out of 3 turns would ruin that since at some point they will deck out(though of course unless they've been overusing hourglasses, you'd be likely to deck out first)

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Re: Mjöllnir | Mjöllnir https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20566.msg261993#msg261993
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2011, 03:53:15 pm »
I don't wanna ruin every eternity based deck out there, making them deck out.
why not?  :P
**edit** Don't know how to make a poll, let's just discuss!
the bit in the screen where you can click on "reply", "notify", "mark unread" etc. there is also one marked "add poll"

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Re: Mjöllnir | Mjöllnir https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20566.msg261995#msg261995
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2011, 03:58:08 pm »
I guess I just invented a timebow counter then :p

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Re: Mjöllnir | Mjöllnir https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20566.msg262005#msg262005
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2011, 04:25:28 pm »
if a weapon has Enchanted Artefact on it etc. can it still be delayed by bash?

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Re: Mjöllnir | Mjöllnir https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20566.msg262007#msg262007
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2011, 04:33:09 pm »
if a weapon has Enchanted Artefact on it etc. can it still be delayed by bash?
Yes, just like a quinted destroyer is affected by turtle shield.

 

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