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Mirror Knight | Mirror Lord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27016.msg343388#msg343388
« on: May 30, 2011, 07:24:47 pm »
NAME:
Mirror Knight
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
7
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
N | 5
TEXT:
Prismatic : N= Number of elements on the field. If N=12, this card gains immaterial.
NAME:
Mirror Lord
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
5
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
N | 5
TEXT:
Prismatic : N= Number of elements on the field. If N=12, this card gains immaterial.
ART:
Zblader (Mirror Mark, Redrawn version of Hyroen's (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27009.0.html))

Krava for Original Image (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6660.msg157611#msg157611)
IDEA:
Zblader, inspired by Luminous Umbra (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,20799.0.html), Hyroen (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27009.0.html)
NOTES:
: 1 Mirror Quanta.

Mirror quanta are used to denote 1 quanta matching your mark. No longer will we have to explain that the cost must match the mark.

Other quanta has always been used to refer to an absolute amount of quanta regardless of elemental affinity. In my opinion, this is one view, and can be denoted by :rainbow. The problem with Other quanta has always been the balancing issue that arises by the playing of Cremation or Supernova.
At first, I was trying to resize Hyroen's small mark to get it on the Knight's Shield, but I started to mess around and I ended up redrawing the entire mark.



Things that will count as elements for its ability are: Marks, permanents, pillars/towers and pendulums/ upped pendulums, and creatures. Other doesn't count as an element.

The thematic idea is that as more elements are present, there is more reflected by the Mirror Knight. When all elements are present, they mix to form 1 color - white - and at that point Mirror Knight has become all-powerful.

Has good synergy with Fallen Elf and rainbows that run a lot of low-cost cards.

Cost may need lowering, but I'd like to see what others think first.

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Re: Mirror Knight | Mirror Lord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27016.msg343412#msg343412
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2011, 07:48:02 pm »
The Immaterial part seems very rare in-game, since I have only seen farms and stalls with all 12 elements present on the field.

The cost looks pretty good at first glance.
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Re: Mirror Knight | Mirror Lord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27016.msg343435#msg343435
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2011, 08:11:24 pm »
I like it; I love how it can work against your opponent. As for cost, i think 6 | 5 is ok
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Re: Mirror Knight | Mirror Lord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27016.msg343441#msg343441
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2011, 08:22:39 pm »
Cost needs to be lowered, if pillars/towers/pendulums don't count as elements on the field. Is there also an anima quanta that requires the opposite element as the cost?

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Re: Mirror Knight | Mirror Lord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27016.msg343448#msg343448
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2011, 08:33:06 pm »
Cost needs to be lowered, if pillars/towers/pendulums don't count as elements on the field.
They do count. Read the notes more carefully please.
Is there also an anima quanta that requires the opposite element as the cost?
No, and I doubt there will be - something similar called 'antiquanta' was attempted recently and failed. Why not just put the card in the element it costs?
I'll consider lowering the cost after hearing further feedback.

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Re: Mirror Knight | Mirror Lord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27016.msg343450#msg343450
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2011, 08:37:07 pm »
"Things that will count as elements for its ability are: Marks, permanents other than pillars/towers and pendulums/ upped pendulums, and creatures."


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Re: Mirror Knight | Mirror Lord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27016.msg343461#msg343461
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2011, 08:45:39 pm »
"Things that will count as elements for its ability are: Marks, permanents other than pillars/towers and pendulums/ upped pendulums, and creatures."
Fixed. Checking copypastes for inconsistency is always a good idea.

On that note, I've added a poll on whether this card should count pillars or not. Please vote.

Re: Mirror Knight | Mirror Lord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27016.msg343465#msg343465
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2011, 08:58:33 pm »
Well.....This is a surprise.  :o Didn't think Á Bao A Qu would be remade so quickly.
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Re: Mirror Knight | Mirror Lord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27016.msg344218#msg344218
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2011, 01:11:17 am »
Bump. We've got a rather well-backed tie on both sides. :)

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Re: Mirror Knight | Mirror Lord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27016.msg344273#msg344273
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2011, 02:36:49 am »
Is it just me, or does mirror Quanta more imply my opponents mark?
It be more like a lensing effect if it were my own quanta...
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Re: Mirror Knight | Mirror Lord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27016.msg344276#msg344276
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2011, 02:59:13 am »
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Re: Mirror Knight | Mirror Lord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27016.msg344278#msg344278
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2011, 03:07:16 am »
Hold a mirror, what do you see? Yourself or the enemy?
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