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Re: Mirror Curse | Mirror Curse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53657.msg1126158#msg1126158
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2014, 11:28:31 pm »
So this is basically a one-time-cost version of Mitosis in those situations?

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Re: Mirror Curse | Mirror Curse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53657.msg1126160#msg1126160
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2014, 11:39:18 pm »
So this is basically a one-time-cost version of Mitosis in those situations?
sort of... its more like turning a creature into a malignant cell that spams to both sides.
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Re: Mirror Curse | Mirror Curse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53657.msg1126163#msg1126163
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2014, 12:13:29 am »
Hmm, overpowered or no...

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Re: Mirror Curse | Mirror Curse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53657.msg1126175#msg1126175
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2014, 03:17:50 am »
Might want some outside opinions on that...

The psion combo is easiest to pull off...

Cost is 4 :aether + 4 :aether + 9 :underworld + 1 :light = 18 :underworld
A total of 4 cards so thats a bout 8 :underworld for a total of 26 :underworld converted
Have to give up shield slot, ~2 :underworld (I think...)  so 28 :underworld converted

After that,
-> you will flood both sides of the field with psions about 5 turns depending on other creatures get played first.
-> There will be no way to stop the flooding, but sundial and SoP could slow it a bit.
-> Downside, you have to survive off of a mirror shield the whole time.

Propogation rate:
a = owners move, b= opponents move
Turn   #friend   #enemy
1a   1      0
1b   1      1
2a   2      1
2b   2      3
3a   5      3
3b   5      8
4a   13      8
4b   13      21
5a   23      21
5b   23      23

The lack of spell damage mitigation outside of mirror and emerald shield what makes this so nasty.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2014, 03:21:53 am by OdinVanguard »
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Re: Mirror Curse | Mirror Curse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53657.msg1126206#msg1126206
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2014, 01:45:23 pm »
What's the second 4 :aether for? Quint? Seems unnecessary...

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Re: Mirror Curse | Mirror Curse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53657.msg1126255#msg1126255
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2014, 08:40:37 pm »
What's the second 4 :aether for? Quint? Seems unnecessary...
Psions aren't immaterial. They can be stopped with lobo or mass CC. Quint makes sure this cant happen and ensures the field gets flooded by them.
Its not necessary for the combo to succeed, it just makes it nearly impossible to stop.
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Re: Mirror Curse | Mirror Curse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53657.msg1126269#msg1126269
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2014, 11:01:36 pm »
I'm just saying that it would be okay just leaving it as is, since there's no way they can lobo both their side and your side at that rate... I think it would be better to use SoW, instead of quint. Doubles the damage output.

 

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